Opera 81.0.4196.0 developer update

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @venster last edited by

@venster So far, it hasn't happened here.

[pclaudel1]

pclaudel1 @venster last edited by

@venster Is it happening to you in Beta, Developer, or both? I see it still happening in Beta, but Developer has been free of this glitch since the update to 4196.

[pclaudel1]

pclaudel1 @venster last edited by

@venster @venster Is it happening to you in Beta, Developer, or both? I see it still happening in Beta, but Developer has been free of this glitch since the update to 4196.

[burnout426]

burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by burnout426

@andrew84 I don't see the problem on Win 10. But, with my Intel 2520m and GPU, I only see the legacy video decoder in opera://gpu.

You might be experiencing something like https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/XT6CN3HQKco/m/1HY8tYB4AgAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer&pli=1 but for Windows where the non-legacy video decoder is failing and falling back to software. According to that thread there's evidence for that in opera://media-internals.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

@burnout426 If I disable the extension, then performance is better. So the performance for vp8/vp9 looks like previously.
In O79 and later the extension makes things worse (in O78 and earlier is the opposite - extension helps).
And as I mentioned earlier, I don't have the issue on my laptop (i3 3110m).
Both Desktop and Laptop are on Win8.1 (Pro version on desktop) and use Intel's integrated video. I didn't any graphics drivers updates or something, I just updated Opera and noticed that it's impossible to watch video and rolled back to O78 on the same day.

Edit: I also checked Portable version and result is the same

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Graphics card is the same on both?

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg No.
Intel HD 4000 on laptop and some Intel HD on Desktop (there's no model numbe)

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Maybe the problem is related to it? Some incompatibility, lack of support, don't know.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg I don't know.
I thought the resolution could play a role here (because laptop has poor 1366x768 display), I tried to connect 1920x1080 monitor as external display but video also plays fine.

[venster]

venster @pclaudel1 last edited by

@pclaudel1 @leocg I using 4196, I found why. I open another opera window at other desktop area ( I always switch among several desktop). If the windows in other desktop opening, the new opera windows at current desktop can close by click the tab button.

[davidgould]

davidgould @davidgould last edited by

@davidgould: Definitely happened with Hibernation and on 4196.

The reason tabs and history get wiped is because Opera acts as if it's starting with a partially empty profile. So the empty tabs and history get saved over the ones you want.
If you get a crash like this, open Task Explorer and kill all the "opera.exe" tasks. It's the only way to save your tabs and history.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

@burnout426 Sorry for disturbing, but I compared two Opera://gpu reports side by side and there are more differences. One of them related to Haswell (I have g3450 on Desktop and this is Haswell family)

[burnout426]

burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by burnout426

@andrew84 Not a suggested solution, but I wonder if the CPU usage goes down in 81 for the h.264 video if you enable opera://flags/#ignore-gpu-blocklist, restart Opera and test.

And, maybe the --disable-gpu-driver-bug-workarounds command-line switch.

[A Former User]

A Former User @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 I'm not sure, but maybe there are some problems in Angle D3D11 with h.264 video in Opera 81 in your case?
Try changing the chrome://flags/#use-angle flag value to D3D9, restart your browser and test the CPU load.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

@burnout426 @johnd78
Thx for trying to help, but suggested things don't work, unfortunately.
At the same time in Chrome (94.0.4606.81) and in latest Edge Canary (96.0.1040.0) I don't have such issue.
I noticed that in Chrome CPU usage is also quite high but still acceptable if comparing with Opera. The performance is very good in Edge.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by leocg

Opera 82.0.4203.0 is ready for download.

Edit: Only Windows and Mac for now.

[A Former User]

A Former User @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Weird. Then one more guess. Chrome and Edge use proprietary codecs for h.264, while pure Chromium, Opera and Vivaldi do not, I know that for sure. Can you test your CPU load problem for h.264 for example in Vivaldi 4.3? (Portable mode can be selected in the installer, similar to Opera).

[andrew84]

andrew84 @Guest last edited by

@johnd78 yes, in Vivaldi 4.3 (standalone) I have the same issue

[A Former User]

A Former User @andrew84 last edited by A Former User

@andrew84 Then perhaps this is a problem of new versions of browsers on the chromium engine, but compiled without their own proprietary codecs? Such browsers use system codecs. (If you self-compile the source code for chromium, you can enable this feature, but I think that browser developers should have a license).
But this is something specific, related to your system or hardware. On Win 7x64, I could not reproduce your problem. The CPU load when watching this example video in h.264 with h264ify is about the same in any version of Opera, Chrome and Vivaldi. Edge is slightly less than others, but in any case, the CPU load is small.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @Guest last edited by

@johnd78 There's no way trying fixing it locally (install/reinstall/update system codecs, 3rd party codecs, copy something from O78 installation and paste into O81 directory or similar way)?