Opera 81.0.4196.0 developer update

[davidgould]

davidgould @davidgould last edited by

Nope not fixed. Just wiped tabs and history.

https://prnt.sc/1uwxcml

Tabs have always been fragile. Can Opera not be a bit more robust in this regard? Obviously, we don't expect current tabs to be saved but it shouldn't be hard to go to the last set.

Think it might have been Suspend, not Hibernation.

[l33t4opera]

l33t4opera @predrag83yu last edited by sgunhouse

Hi @predrag83yu, have you downloaded and installed the exact package from the link? if so, you should find the lib on this path: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/libffmpeg.so.
Also, by "installed" I mean manually using dpkg -i pkg-name.deb.

You can try also to link the FFMPEG lib provided by the snap package, some folks confirm that it works also with Opera installed from the .DEB.

What do you mean by the repo is not working?

The other browsers that replay videos (most probably encoded with H.264 codec - the ones not working in your case) have a license to use it or implemented own solution internally.

[burnout426]

burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 What does Opera's built-in task manager show between 78 and 81? Interested in the GPU utilization difference.

For opera://gpu, anything differences between the 2 Opera versions? Also, anything difference about the h.264 resolutions listed under the Video Acceleration section?

Wonder if it's something specific to Win8.1 and Opera (or the difference versions of Chromium the 2 Operas use).

[andrew84]

andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by

@burnout426 Hi, thx for the attention.
O78 vs O81 (I have CPU load over 100 in Opera's task manager)

And some differences in Opera://gpu

[venster]

venster @nanana1 last edited by

@nanana1: at first several days, tab close bug was not present, but just five minutes ago, it appear suddenly. now, the bug come back even if I reopen Opera.
This is very odd.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @venster last edited by

@venster So far, it hasn't happened here.

[pclaudel1]

pclaudel1 @venster last edited by

@venster Is it happening to you in Beta, Developer, or both? I see it still happening in Beta, but Developer has been free of this glitch since the update to 4196.

[pclaudel1]

pclaudel1 @venster last edited by

@venster @venster Is it happening to you in Beta, Developer, or both? I see it still happening in Beta, but Developer has been free of this glitch since the update to 4196.

[burnout426]

burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by burnout426

@andrew84 I don't see the problem on Win 10. But, with my Intel 2520m and GPU, I only see the legacy video decoder in opera://gpu.

You might be experiencing something like https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/XT6CN3HQKco/m/1HY8tYB4AgAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer&pli=1 but for Windows where the non-legacy video decoder is failing and falling back to software. According to that thread there's evidence for that in opera://media-internals.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

@burnout426 If I disable the extension, then performance is better. So the performance for vp8/vp9 looks like previously.
In O79 and later the extension makes things worse (in O78 and earlier is the opposite - extension helps).
And as I mentioned earlier, I don't have the issue on my laptop (i3 3110m).
Both Desktop and Laptop are on Win8.1 (Pro version on desktop) and use Intel's integrated video. I didn't any graphics drivers updates or something, I just updated Opera and noticed that it's impossible to watch video and rolled back to O78 on the same day.

Edit: I also checked Portable version and result is the same

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Graphics card is the same on both?

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg No.
Intel HD 4000 on laptop and some Intel HD on Desktop (there's no model numbe)

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Maybe the problem is related to it? Some incompatibility, lack of support, don't know.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg I don't know.
I thought the resolution could play a role here (because laptop has poor 1366x768 display), I tried to connect 1920x1080 monitor as external display but video also plays fine.

[venster]

venster @pclaudel1 last edited by

@pclaudel1 @leocg I using 4196, I found why. I open another opera window at other desktop area ( I always switch among several desktop). If the windows in other desktop opening, the new opera windows at current desktop can close by click the tab button.

[davidgould]

davidgould @davidgould last edited by

@davidgould: Definitely happened with Hibernation and on 4196.

The reason tabs and history get wiped is because Opera acts as if it's starting with a partially empty profile. So the empty tabs and history get saved over the ones you want.
If you get a crash like this, open Task Explorer and kill all the "opera.exe" tasks. It's the only way to save your tabs and history.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

@burnout426 Sorry for disturbing, but I compared two Opera://gpu reports side by side and there are more differences. One of them related to Haswell (I have g3450 on Desktop and this is Haswell family)

[burnout426]

burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by burnout426

@andrew84 Not a suggested solution, but I wonder if the CPU usage goes down in 81 for the h.264 video if you enable opera://flags/#ignore-gpu-blocklist, restart Opera and test.

And, maybe the --disable-gpu-driver-bug-workarounds command-line switch.

[A Former User]

A Former User @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 I'm not sure, but maybe there are some problems in Angle D3D11 with h.264 video in Opera 81 in your case?
Try changing the chrome://flags/#use-angle flag value to D3D9, restart your browser and test the CPU load.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

@burnout426 @johnd78
Thx for trying to help, but suggested things don't work, unfortunately.
At the same time in Chrome (94.0.4606.81) and in latest Edge Canary (96.0.1040.0) I don't have such issue.
I noticed that in Chrome CPU usage is also quite high but still acceptable if comparing with Opera. The performance is very good in Edge.