Opera 75 brings easier access to top features
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albertop last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 00:46@leocg: Maybe there was a flag or option related to colors that was ripped off? So this "new" should be the standard colour behaviour, to use OS colours? I am completely puzzled.
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albertop last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 00:49
@leocg: after disabling Windows dark theme, also badge colors in Opera home are come back (how this could be???) and are no more all dark background-ed. Even more confused!
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albertop last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 01:04
@leocg: last thing to note, as said, when Windows Dark theme is active, the switches in settings page do disappear completely:
"3 settings page switches disappearing with Windows Dark Mode on.png" https://postimg.cc/QH1D8QTPNow I go to bed and I will come back tomorrow to see if someone can explain to me what I've done wrong on my system
, or what thing is going bad with my windows and Opera colors. Thanks -
leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 01:06
@albertop Do you use any special Windows theme?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 01:08
@albertop Some web pages can detect that you are using a dark theme and set up their themes to follow it.
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albertop last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 01:38
@leocg: Ok I've looked into about:flags and I've found the following two interesting:
"Web Platform Controls Dark Mode
If enabled, forms controls and scrollbars will be rendered with a dark theme, only on web pages that support dark color schemes, and when the OS is switched to dark theme. – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS"And
"Web Platform Controls updated UI
If enabled, HTML forms elements will be rendered using an updated style. – Windows, Linux, Chrome OS, Android"both set as Enabled by default.
I remember to have seen those flag this before, but I don't remember how was their value.
They seems related to behavior I've observed.
Should I try to disable some?
Tomorrow I will try and see.
If requested, I could try to link my Windows dark theme save file for download for testing with it.
What's up? My guesses about the possible origins of the problem:
- flags were previously set by me to Disabled (but, I don't remember that though!), and update process has reverted them to enable
- default value for flags has simply changed from D to E
- a bug were present on some of those flag's action, now they works as intended but not before
Those should be confirmed by experts there around ^_^
Note also that, I was having /some/ problems with colors on recent Opera versions before 75, but, this was only on /some/ sites, where background was rendered dark and fonts with some dark color difficult to view.
Now the behavior is, except for upper border and sidebar strip, all is dark with Windows theme text color (such as gold color, good for windows borders and file names) and most elements in Opera are not viewable at all or gone black. Some color or shape rendering is also compromised in dark mode.
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albertop last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 01:52
@leocg: Sorry your I haven't see your question!
Yes, I use a "special" Windows theme, I've crafted starting from "Hi-contrast theme" and then changing manually the colors.I've saved the theme on G Drive, this is the link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vTPVgpWWpB_FKrEaU8HYJ4acQR0k-KgL/view?usp=sharing -
leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 03:53
@albertop Then that's probably it, the theme is "forcing" Opera to use a high contrast UI and that's why things a messed up.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 03:55
@albertop The flags probably were disabled by default and now they are enabled by default.
You can try disabling them but I don't think it will make any difference. Ans would be just a workaround.
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shintoplasm01 last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 08:21
@palx: Maybe this extension can help, once they completely remove the flag? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/grammar-and-spell-checker/oldceeleldhonbafppcapldpdifcinji
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palx last edited by palx 26 Mar 2021, 10:40 26 Mar 2021, 10:35@shintoplasm01 Thank you, I've being using it for a while, and it is a superb app because it checks your grammar mistakes also, but it cannot be used on any of the sidebar apps like "Messenger" or "WhatsApp" which are the most crucial for me, since this is where I have to change languages a lot to communicate and need my spelling checked. I had in the past asked them about it, on their Opera Store version of the app, but they said they cannot make it work on Sidebar apps.... Let's hope by the time the Chromium Devs remove the flag indefinitely, they will have fixed the issue, since they know about it and have already found the solution.
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firuz-u7 last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 15:47Vivaldi will soon have native translation of pages, when Opera will have native translation of pages???
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sgrandin last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 17:42
I found today that a telemed provider using doxy.me still can't see my camera and mic with Opera browser. I hope you're investigating. It worked up until earlier this month. Today it worked with Firefox, which had been inconsistent previously, according to the doctor.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 18:24
@firuz-u7 What translation service will be used?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by 26 Mar 2021, 20:22
@pavelopdev Thanks, never had heard of it.
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84 26 Mar 2021, 21:01 26 Mar 2021, 21:00
I liked how does the transparent tabsbar looks in Vivaldi and how items highlighting effect depends on current background's main color (looks modern).
I think Opera can have the similar fluid/semitransparent design.
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albertop last edited by 28 Mar 2021, 20:27
@leocg: Ok, Follow up.
I were going on the High intensity themes because it was the only officla way to be able to change colors manually, I dunno why MS blocked the colors settings UI for any other Windows Theme, replacing it with some fancy automatic "colorization".
I've disabled it for the moment, but for any other theme the explorer background and the other colors will remain simply white.
Other solution found in web, lead to installing of some hacking dll to release the security mechanisms of the theme handler MS's dll, not something I would like to do, if there is alternatives (the dead UxTheme and the newest fork on Github, SecureUx).
Regarding to Opera, actually (75) a far as I can try, it seems that it is taking the colors straight from Windows colors, only if it is set an High Intensity theme, and not otherwise.
So I am guessing, if this could be a new setup of Opera 75, to better handle the impaired vision / accessibility for people that uses the high intensity theme?
Anyway, I'm trying to get full dark mode in windows without to use high intensity theme.
I've not yet tested to change those experiment flags of the above post, because anyway, high intensity theme was giving a big number of visibility problems in many applications, and of course, also in many sites view under Opera.
So I'm heading toward some different solution, if I find one. Every Theme / theme pack I've found so far to be enough dark, uses the UXTheme hack.
I'm also willing to experiment with the Flux solution to dim the PC (it also has a dark mode). Any knowing of a solution please reply. Thanks -
albertop last edited by 28 Mar 2021, 20:29
@leocg: Also, some Explorer colors are out of sight of any colour setting anywhere, including, modifying the registry, while, Hi Intensity themes provide dark color also here.
I will update, if you don't need more info say so and I will stop bothering. Thanks -
leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by 28 Mar 2021, 21:27
@albertop I once selected a high contrast theme on Windows to see how it would look like and Opera and other programs changed accordingly. So no, it's not something new.
