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    • andrew84
      andrew84 @stolis last edited by

      @stolis https://forums.opera.com/post/320958

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      • stolis
        stolis @andrew84 last edited by

        @andrew84: you're right. "disable" was just the wrong word.

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        • andrew84
          andrew84 @stolis last edited by

          @stolis Yes, but the feature must be optional and completely switchable off.

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          • stolis
            stolis @andrew84 last edited by

            @andrew84 No question about it. They already have stopped giving us options for quite sometime now but I'm afraid this time they've crossed the red line with this version.

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            • nadie-nada-nunca
              nadie-nada-nunca @stolis last edited by

              @stolis said in Opera 101 Stable:

              Problem is that the hole UI has been changed to something no one likes

              I do like it, it's my point.

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              • daunlouded
                daunlouded @nadie-nada-nunca last edited by

                @nadie-nada-nunca I must hop in here. Because I must ask; do you like it more than previous UI?

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                • nadie-nada-nunca
                  nadie-nada-nunca @daunlouded last edited by

                  @daunlouded In some respects, yes. It's still buggy, give it time to stabilize. I don't like what they did to the Opera button, I don't like that the scrollbar is now not at the edge, and I don't like having all the sidebar buttons at the bottom. But the new interface is clean and pleasant to me.

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                  • andrew84
                    andrew84 @nadie-nada-nunca last edited by

                    @nadie-nada-nunca said in Opera 101 Stable:

                    But the new interface is clean and pleasant to me.

                    How it's cleaner comparing to the previous one?

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                    • nadie-nada-nunca
                      nadie-nada-nunca @andrew84 last edited by

                      @andrew84 I didn't say it's cleaner than the previous one. I said it's clean, and I said I like it.

                      I guess you may find one or the other "cleaner" depending on how you use it. I, for example, ditched my previous workspace-based scheme, and replaced it with islands. Now I can see all my tab groups at any time, no need to switch between workspaces. That, in itself, is "cleaner" than what I was previously doing. But that's because of the way I'm using the browser.

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                      • andrew84
                        andrew84 @nadie-nada-nunca last edited by

                        @nadie-nada-nunca I understand.
                        But the 'islands' refer more to features. To implement the islands there was no need for so radical changes to the rest of the UI with its borders and wasted space everywhere.

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                        • thelittlebrowserthatcould
                          thelittlebrowserthatcould @andrew84 last edited by

                          @andrew84 I suppose it was thought that the "bling" would attract new users. If the modular design is important, then perhaps one day an option will be provided that doesn't distract from the browser's primary function i.e. a return to the look of 99.

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                          • andrew84
                            andrew84 @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by

                            @thelittlebrowserthatcould Maybe it really will attract some portion of new users (temporarily most probably), but will keep the old users away.
                            Personally, I'm not going to tolerate the absurd borders everywhere.

                            If they really had to change smth, according to 2023 chrome UI refresh it should be less significant.
                            For example if there was a wish to make rounded tabs, tabs should look more elegant with tiny top and bottom borders.
                            Something like this
                            2023-08-07_221839.png
                            And I'm sure this wouldn't hurt the tab islands implementation.

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                            • daunlouded
                              daunlouded last edited by

                              All right I decided to grab my secondary laptop with smaller screen and take screenshots of both versions to prove that the new version takes up more space and is unpleasant to use. Wall of text at the end of this post.
                              Opera99.png
                              The new version takes more space and feels "crowded" even when it's a fresh-ish install:
                              alt text

                              The difference doesn't look that big of a deal when comparing those static screenshots but in actual use it is a real difference. This must change.

                              I'm currently reverting to old version just so I can browse the internet which is not something a user should have to do to get a good browsing experience. If this doesn't get fixed I must go for another browser even though resaving all my bookmarks, saved passwords and extensions and stuff must be re-entered. It takes time and I would rather use that time to do other stuff.

                              Also having those sidebar icons in three different places? Fire the guy who thought it would make a good user experience. Seriously.

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                              • belthur
                                belthur last edited by

                                Can we go back to the previous tab (Square ones) ? The new ones are small and the close button is so small, have to get used to target practice to close a tab.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @belthur last edited by

                                  @belthur Nope, unless you install and use an Opera version older than 100.

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