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    • rsa-vby
      rsa-vby last edited by rsa-vby

      Well, if people find both functions valuable, why remove one at he expense of the other? Opera's interface is super simple and straightforward anyway, I believe there is the space - and the need - for both of them. We're far from getting overloaded with functionality, so there's no limitation of that. As for the the navigating to the menu, then to the history and finding the closed tabs there - well, as recently in recently closed tab suggests, you wanna use it to quickly open back what you just closed and get back at it - and the time needed to go to the history really makes the difference here. Cheers

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      • stolis
        stolis @leocg last edited by

        @leocg: Well, the only thing i'm not realizing is why i still keep reading complains about such a useless feature. And on the other hand it really bothers me when someone is trying so hard to underestimate my intelligence. Words speak for themselves.

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer @hubim last edited by

          @hubim You can bookmark that page.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer @hubim last edited by

            @hubim Now it seems that recently closed tabs is really recently closed tabs and not (almost) all closed tabs.

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            • pacislavek
              pacislavek last edited by

              Thanks for upgrading Opera. Can't wait for the next update!

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              • SilentHugOfDoom
                SilentHugOfDoom @Guest last edited by

                @diegosdf

                I'm definitely leaving opera...

                don't. they are going to make something better, I know they will...

                Stable macOS • Online Portfolio

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                • andrew84
                  andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

                  @leocg there were many requests in the past about increasing the amount of recently closed tabs items in TabMenu, as it seems. So the feature was and still quite popular.

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                  • andrew84
                    andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

                    @leocg Look what I've found https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2017/08/exportable-bookmarks-smoother-videos-design-improvements-opera-47/
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                    Yes, I agree with Opera, this a handy shortcut to my history log.

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                    • davey126
                      davey126 @rsa-vby last edited by

                      @rsa-vby : that certainly is an argument many are making in the comments. My own view is excess functionality gets in the way of usability. Cluttering the (arguably already busy) top bar with additional buttons will diminish the experience for some. Which buttons should be there and/or whether they should be user selectable is a choice the designers will have to access based on user feedback and whatever other criteria goes into the decision making process. My earlier comment was simply expressing a personal preference for what rolled out in O68.

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                      • andrew84
                        andrew84 @davey126 last edited by andrew84

                        @davey126 You probably forgot that 'Seacrh in tabs' feature was part of the InstantSearch feature previously and the magnifying glass icon (can be hidden) was in the sidebar.
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                        Now the icon is always visible and can't be hidden and replaces the TabMenu. When I open start page I see 3 magnifying glasses.
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                        • davey126
                          davey126 @andrew84 last edited by

                          @andrew84 : I did not forget but also didn't use the feature that often due to click path and count. That, of course, is a personal view albeit partially biased by a dislike of the quick search function as I tend to open a new tab. I am not here to argue for one option over the other. I am simply stating my satisfaction for the UX choices in O68.

                          As for multiple magnifying glass icons on the start page, yeah...there's an opportunity to clean that up. Does not bother me but I can see how it would put some folks nickers in a knot.

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                          • andrew84
                            andrew84 @davey126 last edited by andrew84

                            @davey126 Ok. I just was trying to say that this is not a new feature but just part of the old feature (though in the blog it's announced like a new feature in 68) which is now located (its icon) in the new place, and the TabMenu suffered because of these manipulations. And like previously it can be called by using Ctrl + space shortcut.
                            *If in short, we have the same old feature now ('Search in tabs') but in new place instead of previous 3 features ('Search in tabs', 'web Instant Search' and TabMenu).

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                            • giacomorutili
                              giacomorutili last edited by

                              where is the recent open tabs button? The same button that shows the tabs sync with other devices

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                              • misterdoge
                                misterdoge @giacomorutili last edited by

                                @giacomorutili You have to disable the new search button for that : opera://flags/#enhanced-address-bar
                                Apparently opera really likes to remove useful features these days...

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                                • davey126
                                  davey126 @andrew84 last edited by

                                  @andrew84 : Yep - I get that. I also suspect Opera has usage telemetry from millions of users that supported the decision. Moving/retiring functionality is never an easy choice; some portion of the population always feels burned.

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                                  • stolis
                                    stolis @davey126 last edited by

                                    @davey126: That's your personal opinion and i respect it. But the hole point is to improve
                                    functionality, right? In this case there's a lot of people feeling frustrated with the absence of previous feature. Otherwise we wouldn't see that many posts about it.
                                    So i believe they should reconsider their decision in this case and give users the opportunity to disable stuff they don't like. Don't you think?

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                                    • davey126
                                      davey126 @stolis last edited by

                                      @stolis : reread previous posts; no advocacy for turning a blind eye. That said, there is a bigger picture that ultimately drives difficult design choices. Moving on, not going to resolve anything by rehashing.

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                                      • giacomorutili
                                        giacomorutili @misterdoge last edited by

                                        @misterdoge thank you! I can't understand that choice

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                                        • giacomorutili
                                          giacomorutili @misterdoge last edited by

                                          @misterdoge I've disabled the search button but it's always there 😞
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                                          • andrew84
                                            andrew84 @giacomorutili last edited by

                                            @giacomorutili correct flag is #search-in-open-tabs

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