Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar

stolis

stolis @andrew84

@andrew84: Dear andrew, there is no reason continuing this conversation anymore. It's a fact now that they don't care at all about user opinions. After so many posts about previous instant search feature (in this case), there's our answer from dear "leocg"

"There are people that will not be able to (easily) learn new things and, therefore, get used to those new things. Some because of lacking of capacity, what may not be, necessarily, their fault and other because they are too lazy for that"

Make your own conclusion. It seems like i've lost the ability of learning new "useless" to me features whether i like them or not. Or perhaps i'm to lazy...

hubim

hubim @leocg

@leocg: typing "opera://activity" instead of clicking one button doesn't seem to be a good solution...
Next thing: the old menu offered many more closed tabs then sidebar menu. Now i see only 5 closed tabs. There where more in the old menu (the same as Menu -> history now)

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @stolis

@stolis You already realized that I am just na user like you, right?

rsa-vby

rsa-vby

Bring us the recently closed back to where it was. Many people share this opinion

davey126

davey126

I happen to like the 're-imagined' (constrained) space in the upper right corner. Being able to hone in on an already open tab via keyword is far more useful than scanning a lengthy list of entries that often needed to be scrolled and frequently jumbled up with recently closed tabs. Navigating to history in the side-bar to find the latter is both intuitive and consolidates similar functionality.

rsa-vby

rsa-vby

Well, if people find both functions valuable, why remove one at he expense of the other? Opera's interface is super simple and straightforward anyway, I believe there is the space - and the need - for both of them. We're far from getting overloaded with functionality, so there's no limitation of that. As for the the navigating to the menu, then to the history and finding the closed tabs there - well, as recently in recently closed tab suggests, you wanna use it to quickly open back what you just closed and get back at it - and the time needed to go to the history really makes the difference here. Cheers

stolis

stolis @leocg

@leocg: Well, the only thing i'm not realizing is why i still keep reading complains about such a useless feature. And on the other hand it really bothers me when someone is trying so hard to underestimate my intelligence. Words speak for themselves.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hubim

@hubim You can bookmark that page.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hubim

@hubim Now it seems that recently closed tabs is really recently closed tabs and not (almost) all closed tabs.

pacislavek

pacislavek

Thanks for upgrading Opera. Can't wait for the next update!

SilentHugOfDoom

SilentHugOfDoom @Guest

@diegosdf

I'm definitely leaving opera...

don't. they are going to make something better, I know they will...

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andrew84

andrew84 @leocg

@leocg there were many requests in the past about increasing the amount of recently closed tabs items in TabMenu, as it seems. So the feature was and still quite popular.

andrew84

andrew84 @leocg

@leocg Look what I've found https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2017/08/exportable-bookmarks-smoother-videos-design-improvements-opera-47/

Yes, I agree with Opera, this a handy shortcut to my history log.

davey126

davey126 @rsa-vby

@rsa-vby : that certainly is an argument many are making in the comments. My own view is excess functionality gets in the way of usability. Cluttering the (arguably already busy) top bar with additional buttons will diminish the experience for some. Which buttons should be there and/or whether they should be user selectable is a choice the designers will have to access based on user feedback and whatever other criteria goes into the decision making process. My earlier comment was simply expressing a personal preference for what rolled out in O68.

andrew84

andrew84 @davey126

@davey126 You probably forgot that 'Seacrh in tabs' feature was part of the InstantSearch feature previously and the magnifying glass icon (can be hidden) was in the sidebar.

Now the icon is always visible and can't be hidden and replaces the TabMenu. When I open start page I see 3 magnifying glasses.

davey126

davey126 @andrew84

@andrew84 : I did not forget but also didn't use the feature that often due to click path and count. That, of course, is a personal view albeit partially biased by a dislike of the quick search function as I tend to open a new tab. I am not here to argue for one option over the other. I am simply stating my satisfaction for the UX choices in O68.

As for multiple magnifying glass icons on the start page, yeah...there's an opportunity to clean that up. Does not bother me but I can see how it would put some folks nickers in a knot.

andrew84

andrew84 @davey126

@davey126 Ok. I just was trying to say that this is not a new feature but just part of the old feature (though in the blog it's announced like a new feature in 68) which is now located (its icon) in the new place, and the TabMenu suffered because of these manipulations. And like previously it can be called by using Ctrl + space shortcut.
*If in short, we have the same old feature now ('Search in tabs') but in new place instead of previous 3 features ('Search in tabs', 'web Instant Search' and TabMenu).

giacomorutili

giacomorutili

where is the recent open tabs button? The same button that shows the tabs sync with other devices

misterdoge

misterdoge @giacomorutili

@giacomorutili You have to disable the new search button for that : opera://flags/#enhanced-address-bar
Apparently opera really likes to remove useful features these days...

davey126

davey126 @andrew84

@andrew84 : Yep - I get that. I also suspect Opera has usage telemetry from millions of users that supported the decision. Moving/retiring functionality is never an easy choice; some portion of the population always feels burned.