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    • ralf-brinkmann
      ralf-brinkmann @daria19 last edited by

      @daria19,
      there is nothing special in my installation steps. I have Opera installed as standalone version, I downloaded the *.exe file and started the installation as usual. That's what I do for many years now.
      This hidden .opera folder is always there for a lot of versions now, but I can't remember it was there in previous years. I can't say exactly when I noticed it the first time. But it's always there. When I delete it it will be recreated in a short time.

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      • koimark
        koimark last edited by

        I noticed opportunity to use AI to arrange tabs to islands. Tested it with my Macbook Pro and it worked nicely. But in Windows that doesn't seem to do nothing. It tells somekind of error that AI doesn't find suitable tabs to that. Am I missing something?

        Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. ...

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        • andrew84
          andrew84 last edited by

          I noticed that on internal pages the scrollbar is almost invisible in light mode. I first thought that there's no scrollbar at all but after moving and hovering the bar it becomes a bit visible.
          2024-12-05_120548.png

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          • andrew84
            andrew84 @andrew84 last edited by andrew84

            @andrew84 there are also similar complaints on forum
            https://forums.opera.com/post/365664
            https://forums.opera.com/post/365314
            https://forums.opera.com/post/364682

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            • burnout426
              burnout426 Volunteer @ralf-brinkmann last edited by

              @ralf-brinkmann You should only see that folder in "C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\temp" (and "C:\Windows\temp" in some cases). That should even be the case for a standalone installation running from a folder on "C:" somewhere too.

              I didn't test running a standalone installation on another drive though or running the installer on another drive launched from that standalone installation after downloading the installer in it. There might be some scenario where Opera falls back to the downloads folder instead of using the temp folder.

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              • ralf-brinkmann
                ralf-brinkmann @burnout426 last edited by

                @burnout426
                Very strange. If this was just a temporary folder, then it would have to be removed after a successful download or something similar. But it stubbornly remains there. At the moment this folder contains two subfolders,

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                both of which are empty.

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                • MichaIng
                  MichaIng last edited by

                  I recognised that individual cookies cannot be removed or even seen anymore, but only all cookies for website removed, without any info/list about them. I know with developer options it is possible, but guys, this is such an essential feature, for transparency, security, a lot of practical tasks as well: please re-add it to the lock button GUI beside the address bar, and the settings. Is it this experimental cookies feature flag, which cannot be disabled, but only changed from "undefined" to "enabled"?

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @MichaIng last edited by

                    @MichaIng It's a Chromium change.

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                    • MichaIng
                      MichaIng @leocg last edited by

                      @leocg thanks for the info, and what a huge regression 😞 . Maybe Opera can bring it back? 🙂

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                      • burnout426
                        burnout426 Volunteer @MichaIng last edited by

                        @MichaIng said in Opera 117 developer:

                        Maybe Opera can bring it back?

                        It's probably possible, but I don't think Opera will want to patch that back in and maintain that patch with as much as Chromium changes all the time. Just my thoughts though.

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                        • MichaIng
                          MichaIng @burnout426 last edited by

                          @burnout426 yes, that is quite likely, at least as long it is not only a flag, with the old cookies GUI still implemented in Chromium.

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                          • daria19
                            daria19 Opera @MichaIng last edited by

                            @michaing: Hello! Thank you for your feedback! This behavior is indeed a Chromium change, as Opera is Chromium-based and relies on the same functionality for cookie management as Chrome. We appreciate your suggestion!

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                            • daria19
                              daria19 Opera @andrew84 last edited by

                              @andrew84: Hello! Thank you for your feedback. The scrollbar appears this way due to changes in the color palette, but we understand that it can be hard to see. We’ll discuss how to approach this issue to improve visibility while maintaining the design. Thank you for letting us know!

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                              • daria19
                                daria19 Opera @koimark last edited by

                                @koimark: Hello! Thank you for sharing your experience. The AI tab arrangement should work on Windows computers as well, so it’s strange that you’re encountering an error. Could you let us know exactly what the error message says or describe what happens when you try to use this feature? This will help us better understand the issue and assist you further.

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                                • koimark
                                  koimark @daria19 last edited by

                                  @daria19: I'm doing exactly the same procedure in Windows than Mac. Right click from tab and choose "Välilehtien hallinta tekoälyllä" - "Tab management via AI" Then selecting the tab arrangement based on url "Ryhmävälitys" Ryhmitä välilehdet saariksi verkkosivuston mukaan" -> "Arrange tabs to islands based on url" or something like that.
                                  That gives error in Windows "Hmm... En löydä välilehtiä jotka liittyvät siihen. Jos olen väärässä yritä kysyä uudelleen" translation: Hmm. I don't find tabs related to that. If I am wrong try ask again"
                                  Here are screenshots.
                                  https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/5u48eh402vz8nydn7qu3n/AIGjfM2tJ2IipTSMJUa1Gfc?rlkey=rm1ndt0pmcvq1lfys32muluct&dl=0

                                  Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. ...

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                                  • koimark
                                    koimark @koimark last edited by

                                    @koimark: So the error is not erro like exception or program fault but that AI doesn't know how to proceed to actual arrangement of tabs.

                                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. ...

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @koimark last edited by

                                      @koimark I've just tried here using the "group tabs" option and it worked.

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                                      • CryoNero
                                        CryoNero @daria19 last edited by

                                        @daria19: Hey, putting website on the left sidebar, like you did with twitter and spotify. It's what vivladi and edge do. I know there's a flag you can enable, but it's bare and limited.

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                                        • andrew84
                                          andrew84 last edited by

                                          The bug when page is scrolling to top while moving a tab will be ever fixed (when 'scrolling to top' option is enabled in Settings)? The bug persists more than a year already.

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                                          • koimark
                                            koimark @leocg last edited by

                                            @leocg: Still doesn't work for me. Windows 11 V23H2 (Finnish version) - "Ryhmävälitys" seems not to work. Maybe later I would try to switch language or something else.

                                            Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. ...

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