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    • Rogue-River
      Rogue-River @wonghow last edited by

      @wonghow: There was no feature to save tab groups in Chrome initially. Just because Opera added a single extra feature of automatic tab grouping through links doesn't mean it's any different. Besides, in Opera, you can Ctrl+click to select tabs and create tab islands of tabs that aren't even related by links! So, it's Tab Islands are just like tab groups but worse. Grouping tabs by links is a feature that already existed in many Chrome extensions before Opera even released Tab Islands. I don't understand why you insist that they are fundamentally different. They aren't. Tab Islands is just a bad implementation of the original tab groups in Chrome.

      Besides, having a feature where you can name tab islands wouldn't hurt. You will still be able to have unnamed tab islands just like unnamed tab groups in Chrome.

      At the fundamental level, Opera tab islands use the same concept as Chrome tab groups; it just adds a functionality of auto grouping by links while discarding other functionalities of group naming and saving groups. If the base code for Tab Islands and Tab groups weren't the same, then the same chromium tab group extensions wouldn't work in both Opera and Chrome, which they do!

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer @wonghow last edited by

          @wonghow said:

          group of tabs can group anything you put together, even is not related in any way.

          You can do it in tab islands too.

          And what is wrong of being automatic? island is for tracking links opened in newtabs, group tab is for grouping

          Automatic creation of tab groups needs to have some parameters. In a initial implementation, that parameter is the fact that the new tabs were opened from the same page. However, in the future, maybe it can be defined that they will be opened based on domain, date, whatever.

          If you disable automatic creation of tab islands, you can do those things manually.

          Did Opera called it Group, no, only you people insist island is a group, so to call it a Group

          Tab Islands do exactly the same that Tab Groups, created by Opera about twenty years ago, used to do.

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          • wonghow
            wonghow @leocg last edited by wonghow

            @leocg your reply is incorrect. you don't even know the basic working of tab island. And Opera already made workspace replaced groups, and you still requesting group features. Group is old. Workspace surpasses Groups.

            Tab island cannot group anything together. It must exist first by clicking on a link in newtab, is not suppose for you to drag any other tabs to it, even though you can. It is designed for tracking links. Group, needless to say again, can group any existing tabs.

            disabling creation of tabs by link, do manually is losing the function of tabisland.

            Do you think if you reply makes you correct? So there is no point in replying because Workspace replaces group. If you want to use groups use other browsers, is that simple.

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            • Thierry-Kowalski
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              • andrew84
                andrew84 @wonghow last edited by andrew84

                @wonghow So the islands are based on Chrome's groups but just modified to support automatic creation.

                When auto is turned off then it's 100% group, so those who use it in manual mode (and those who don't use workspace because it requires sidebar using) request naming, color selection and etc.

                As said before, Vivaldi also uses both 'workspaces' and groups but there it's called 'stacks'.

                The fact that many users request naming, color select and etc. tells that the feature is narrowly targeted and fully rely on auto mode (which is optional) instead of being universal feature. And all the current complaints were yet predictable at the stage of development.

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                • rick2
                  rick2 @wonghow last edited by rick2

                  @wonghow I know what Tab Islands are for, that's how I know I don't want them 🙂
                  I have no use for Tab Islands amd I have disabled them in my config.

                  Edit: sorry, sent the post before finishing it

                  But! If I drag a tab and drop it on top of another tab, guess what happens?
                  A new Tab Island is created!

                  Again: I don't want Tab Islands, I have no use for them, it's very annoying when they're created by mistake, and Opera doesn't provide an option to completely disable them

                  They're turning a browser I have used for years into a bloated PoS with every new "feature" added.

                  I'm sorry to say this, I really am, but I'm seriously considering switching to Firefox because I feel I'm constantly battilng Opera, not using it.

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                  • Healing-Cross
                    Healing-Cross @andrew84 last edited by

                    @andrew84 Yes, that's true. Vivaldi has them, too. And even for a whole lot longer than Opera (Chromium).
                    I myself find them more pleasant to the eye in Opera, actually, as I realized lately, when I gave Vivaldi another shot. Vivaldi's tab stacks can be arranged in very different ways, only one "accordeon mode" might be correctly compared to Opera's tab islands.
                    I myself don't rely on both very much honestly. I seldom open more than ten tabs per workspace, rather less than that. So for me it's more gimmicky than a real feature.
                    In this sense I feel that Vivaldi has far to many customization options for people like me.

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                    • rick2
                      rick2 @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by

                      @thelittlebrowserthatcould
                      Yup, it's disabled from day 1.

                      Now, I have received an update to Opera Stable yesterday (110.0.5130.66, I had missed the announcement) and at least in this text box and 2 others I tried, the Aria icon is not shown, so maybe they fixed it.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @wonghow last edited by

                        @wonghow What is tab groups for you? It seems to me your definition of tab groups may be different from the one most known and accepted by people.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @wonghow last edited by

                          @wonghow Workspaces are/were a way to group tabs that Opera implemented a while ago.
                          So, basically, workspaces and tab island are just different ways to group tabs.

                          Even opening different windows with different tabs are a way to group tabs

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @Thierry-Kowalski last edited by

                            @thierry-kowalski English here please

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                              @andrew84 If I remember correctly, tab stacks were the name used when grouping tabs were originally created

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                              • Excella
                                Excella last edited by leocg

                                If I can't get rid of the emoticons, I'll get rid of Opera!

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                                • Dave236
                                  Dave236 @Opera Comments Bot last edited by

                                  @opera-comments-bot
                                  Terrible idea need to be able to remove this

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                                  • etrodrigues
                                    etrodrigues last edited by

                                    If this feature is useful for someone at all, it could just be disabled by default, opt-in.

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                                    • Twigman
                                      Twigman last edited by leocg

                                      I have rolled back and locked in to Version 110.0.5130.49 until this stupid tab emoji bullshit has a "off" option. WTF were you thinking?

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                                      • andrew84
                                        andrew84 last edited by

                                        You should make the emojis feature optional and make the tab hover cards toggles to work in Opera.

                                        Why the toggles in Settings but it doesn't work?
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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                                          @andrew84 As far as I known, those Chromium settings were already removed.

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                                          • andrew84
                                            andrew84 @leocg last edited by

                                            @leocg I see in Stable (portable) but I don't see in Developer.
                                            But it'd be better to leave and put the options to work instead of removing.

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