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    • andrew84
      andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

      @leocg yes, but if you set volume less than 70% in PiP, it shouldn't increase automatically back. As I I understood this also happens to @kened.
      It also happens to me with live videos.
      I set 100% (or 80%, 90% doesn't matter) on youtube, then in PiP I set volume to minimum(10% for example) and after few seconds volume jumps back to the value set on youtube page.

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      • kened
        kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

        @andrew84: Both: visually and also audio goes back to the tab level. On any other website, it is possible to adjust the volume level via the pip window control. On youtube this is not happening as it should. This can be easily tested with Opera 99, Yandex and Firefox.

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        • kened
          kened Banned @leocg last edited by

          @leocg: In Firefox you can control the volume of the pip window with the up and down arrow keys on your keyboard.

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          • kened
            kened Banned @davidgould last edited by

            @davidgould: 😂

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            • kened
              kened Banned @leocg last edited by

              @leocg: No. This is a bug. Try Opera 99. This has always been the case. You are not understanding what I am telling you. Pip window volume control not working on Youtube. Until Opera 99, it always worked, as you would expect. To me it is logical that the pip window volume control should control the video volume.

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              • kened
                kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

                @andrew84: That's what I'm trying to tell him. But I think I have some communication problem.

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                • kened
                  kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                  @leocg: It could be some change in chromium. But it only affects Youtube. As for Firefox, you can change the volume of the pip window using the up and down arrow keys on your keyboard.

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

                    @kened Found some old topics about what seems to be the same issue:

                    https://forums.opera.com/topic/58063/youtube-volume-level

                    https://forums.opera.com/topic/57061/youtube-pop-out-player-volume-changes-automatically

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                    • andrew84
                      andrew84 @kened last edited by

                      @kened Strange. Why I can reproduce it only for stream (live) videos on youtube.

                      @kened said in Opera 102.0.4857.0 developer:

                      Until Opera 99, it always worked,

                      Could you open any stream video on youtube in Opera 99 or lower version and test?

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                      • kened
                        kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                        @leocg: OK. Seems to be the same bug. I realized this a few months ago, but I didn't have time to post it here.

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                        • aaa839
                          aaa839 @aaa839 last edited by

                          @aaa839 @leocg pleae help...

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                          • burnout426
                            burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                            I don't use PIP., so I don't have any expectations of past behavior or anything. But, I tested things out and this is what I found:

                            I notice that Youtube normalizes the audio in videos when you upload them.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384 is a good video to test with. With the volume all the way up on the video toolbar, check the stats and you'll see that the normalized volume is 51%. When you open the video popout, its volume will be set to the normalized 51%. Then, with the video stats still showing, change tracks in the video popout and you'll see the volume in the popout adjust to the normalized value for each track you switch to. In these cases, if you turn the volume all the way up in the popout, you're basically unnormalizing the volume from 51% to 100% and the slider in the main toolbar won't/can't/shouldn't go up anymore. Also note that when you lower the main volume for videos, the normalization values will adjust acorrdingly and the normalized volume the popout defaults to for each track will reflect that.

                            Now, if you lower the normalized volume in the popout, the main toolbar slider will change with it (lower). But, in this case, the main toolbar slider is representing your normalized adjustments and not the direct, regular volume exactly. If you change the track, you'll see the main slider change.

                            With live videos, I see they're not normalized (normalization 100%), so the popout slider is basically useless in that case, and if you change it, it gets reverted back to the main volume level.

                            So, the volume slider in the popout on Youtube is a per-video volume normalization control. That's probably why Opera doesn't add extra code to save state of your slider changes and restore them for each video.

                            With that said, if the popout volume control slider was a direct 1 to 1 sync of the main toolbar volume control through all videos, things would be much more intuitive. But, I guess this is a Youtube thing.

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                            • andrew84
                              andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

                              @burnout426 I always thought that the volume bar (its visual part) on the PiP is dynamic and the slider's visual state recalculates each time.
                              I mean that if 100% on the main toolbar = 50% on the PiP, then visually on the PiP the mentioned 50% will presented as 100%. But visual steps when increasing or decreasing will be different in this case for the main toolbar and PiP.
                              For example, when decreasing volume by 10%. For the main toolbar it will mean that slider will be moved to the left on 10 pixels, but on the PiP the slider will be moved on 20 pixels to the left. If in short, slider on the PiP should move twice faster than on the main toolbar.

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer @aaa839 last edited by

                                @aaa839 Please don't do that. Someone will reply when there is an answer.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                                  @andrew84 Hmm, with that video, the video pop-out volume is kept at 100%.

                                  Lowering the volume in pop-out also lowers it in the main page.

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                                  • andrew84
                                    andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

                                    @leocg yes, after touching the PiP's volume control it becomes fully synchronized with the main volume control and stays synchronized until I touch the main volume control again.

                                    *the same happens here with the @burnout426 's provided video, btw

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                                      @andrew84 Yep, I've check with his video also and go the same results.

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                                      • kened
                                        kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

                                        @andrew84: Actually this bug also happens in Opera 99, in live transmissions.

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                                        • andrew84
                                          andrew84 @kened last edited by

                                          @kened I tested it even in O58 version (which has Opera's PiP, not the default chromium one) and the issue also occurs.

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                                          • kened
                                            kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

                                            @andrew84 I never noticed this error in previous versions and I use all versions of Opera all the time. Could this be due to some recent change on Youtube?

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