Opera 102.0.4857.0 developer
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
I don't use PIP., so I don't have any expectations of past behavior or anything. But, I tested things out and this is what I found:
I notice that Youtube normalizes the audio in videos when you upload them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384 is a good video to test with. With the volume all the way up on the video toolbar, check the stats and you'll see that the normalized volume is 51%. When you open the video popout, its volume will be set to the normalized 51%. Then, with the video stats still showing, change tracks in the video popout and you'll see the volume in the popout adjust to the normalized value for each track you switch to. In these cases, if you turn the volume all the way up in the popout, you're basically unnormalizing the volume from 51% to 100% and the slider in the main toolbar won't/can't/shouldn't go up anymore. Also note that when you lower the main volume for videos, the normalization values will adjust acorrdingly and the normalized volume the popout defaults to for each track will reflect that.
Now, if you lower the normalized volume in the popout, the main toolbar slider will change with it (lower). But, in this case, the main toolbar slider is representing your normalized adjustments and not the direct, regular volume exactly. If you change the track, you'll see the main slider change.
With live videos, I see they're not normalized (normalization 100%), so the popout slider is basically useless in that case, and if you change it, it gets reverted back to the main volume level.
So, the volume slider in the popout on Youtube is a per-video volume normalization control. That's probably why Opera doesn't add extra code to save state of your slider changes and restore them for each video.
With that said, if the popout volume control slider was a direct 1 to 1 sync of the main toolbar volume control through all videos, things would be much more intuitive. But, I guess this is a Youtube thing.
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@burnout426 I always thought that the volume bar (its visual part) on the PiP is dynamic and the slider's visual state recalculates each time.
I mean that if 100% on the main toolbar = 50% on the PiP, then visually on the PiP the mentioned 50% will presented as 100%. But visual steps when increasing or decreasing will be different in this case for the main toolbar and PiP.
For example, when decreasing volume by 10%. For the main toolbar it will mean that slider will be moved to the left on 10 pixels, but on the PiP the slider will be moved on 20 pixels to the left. If in short, slider on the PiP should move twice faster than on the main toolbar. -
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@leocg yes, after touching the PiP's volume control it becomes fully synchronized with the main volume control and stays synchronized until I touch the main volume control again.
*the same happens here with the @burnout426 's provided video, btw
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@kened I don't know. I don't use the PiP much often.
But according the links provided by @leocg, the sound normalization started on youtube yet in ~2016.
I also don't remember problems with the PiP's volume level previously. Maybe some sound processing algorithms were changed on youtube recently, or similar. -
davidgould last edited by
The extension permissions message has been slowly driving me nuts.
It's fricking Aria, an extension which is normally hidden. This should be posted somewhere prominent, or make Aria show in the normal extensions list.
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@andrew84 said
I don't know. I don't use the PiP much often.
I use YouTube and video in pop-out daily on Stable. I've never had the YouTube volume set to anything but 100%. Can't see any reason for adjusting that lever.
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andrew84 last edited by
@vegelund You may want decreasing (temporary) volume in the PiP, but after few second the volume will jump automatically back to 100%.
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A Former User last edited by
I use system volume. Easily accessible from multiple places outside the browser.
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kened Banned last edited by
This bug (live streaming from youtube) also occurs with Yandex browser, but not with Firefox. So it must be a chromium bug. On ordinary Youtube videos (not live streams) only Opera is showing this bug.
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@leocg said in Opera 102.0.4857.0 developer:
Still think that it's related to YouTube normalizing the volume
Obviously.
It'd be good to figure out why it happens randomly. Why some videos with the 'normalized' volume keep its volume level in PiP and some videos do not.
