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[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: You can test with Opera 99, Yandex and Firefox. What is happening is that the pip window volume control is not working on youtube. You change the volume in the pip window, but it goes back to the previous level (whatever that may be) a few seconds later.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @kened last edited by

@kened said in Opera 102.0.4857.0 developer:

it goes back to the previous level

Hi.
Do you mean that visually the volume bar is also jumping back or you just hear the volume returns back?
If visually, I can't confirm it here. By hearing I can't say for sure.

@leocg the same question. Under 'normalization' you mean that visually the volume level bar should go back to the normalized one or you just hear it?

For example:
On some video volume is 100%/52%(in nerd stats). When I set 100% volume (full volume bar) on youtube video and then open PiP, I see half of the volume level bar in the PiP. But after I adjust the volume level in the PiP nothing is jumping back and visually the volume bar is fully synchronized with the one on youtube page. If I will adjust the volume level on youtube page again, the PIP's volume visually will be reduced at 50% again.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @andrew84 last edited by andrew84

@andrew84 Edit: I could reproduce the issue in O95, but only for live (streamable) videos so far.
If I set on youtube page 30% volume level for example and then in PiP I set full volume(100%), after few second the level will jump back to 30% automatically.
The same behavior in the latest developer version.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened Here Firefox doesn't have volume control on PIP.

Will try checking on Opera 99 but there could have been a change in Chromium, so it would be interesting to test with the same Chromium version.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 I tested with the YouTube volume at 100% but with a normalized volume lower than that, like 70%.
In video pop-out the volume slider is at 70% and if I move it to 100%, it returns to 70% after a while.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

@leocg

1. I open random music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqc893TG4vM
2. I set 100% on youtube (it shows 100% / 58% in stats nerd)
3. I open PiP (I see volume level a bit more than 50%)
4. Set 100% in PiP.
5. It stays 100% in PiP and it is fully synchronized with the volume on youtube page when I move the slider in PiP (it means 50% in PIP = 50%, or 70% in PiP = 70% on youtube) until I touch the volume bar again on youtbe page.

*If I open live (stream) music video, then the slider in PiP jumps back after few seconds and volume level always = volume level on Youtube page (doesn't matter if I set the volume level in PiP less or greater one on YouTube page)

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@leocg: @leocg: Your patience here deserves recognition.

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andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

@leocg yes, but if you set volume less than 70% in PiP, it shouldn't increase automatically back. As I I understood this also happens to @kened.
It also happens to me with live videos.
I set 100% (or 80%, 90% doesn't matter) on youtube, then in PiP I set volume to minimum(10% for example) and after few seconds volume jumps back to the value set on youtube page.

[kened]

kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84: Both: visually and also audio goes back to the tab level. On any other website, it is possible to adjust the volume level via the pip window control. On youtube this is not happening as it should. This can be easily tested with Opera 99, Yandex and Firefox.

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: In Firefox you can control the volume of the pip window with the up and down arrow keys on your keyboard.

[kened]

kened Banned @davidgould last edited by

@davidgould:

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kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: No. This is a bug. Try Opera 99. This has always been the case. You are not understanding what I am telling you. Pip window volume control not working on Youtube. Until Opera 99, it always worked, as you would expect. To me it is logical that the pip window volume control should control the video volume.

[kened]

kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84: That's what I'm trying to tell him. But I think I have some communication problem.

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: It could be some change in chromium. But it only affects Youtube. As for Firefox, you can change the volume of the pip window using the up and down arrow keys on your keyboard.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened Found some old topics about what seems to be the same issue:

https://forums.opera.com/topic/58063/youtube-volume-level

https://forums.opera.com/topic/57061/youtube-pop-out-player-volume-changes-automatically

[andrew84]

andrew84 @kened last edited by

@kened Strange. Why I can reproduce it only for stream (live) videos on youtube.

@kened said in Opera 102.0.4857.0 developer:

Until Opera 99, it always worked,

Could you open any stream video on youtube in Opera 99 or lower version and test?

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: OK. Seems to be the same bug. I realized this a few months ago, but I didn't have time to post it here.

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@aaa839 @leocg pleae help...

[burnout426]

burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

I don't use PIP., so I don't have any expectations of past behavior or anything. But, I tested things out and this is what I found:

I notice that Youtube normalizes the audio in videos when you upload them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384 is a good video to test with. With the volume all the way up on the video toolbar, check the stats and you'll see that the normalized volume is 51%. When you open the video popout, its volume will be set to the normalized 51%. Then, with the video stats still showing, change tracks in the video popout and you'll see the volume in the popout adjust to the normalized value for each track you switch to. In these cases, if you turn the volume all the way up in the popout, you're basically unnormalizing the volume from 51% to 100% and the slider in the main toolbar won't/can't/shouldn't go up anymore. Also note that when you lower the main volume for videos, the normalization values will adjust acorrdingly and the normalized volume the popout defaults to for each track will reflect that.

Now, if you lower the normalized volume in the popout, the main toolbar slider will change with it (lower). But, in this case, the main toolbar slider is representing your normalized adjustments and not the direct, regular volume exactly. If you change the track, you'll see the main slider change.

With live videos, I see they're not normalized (normalization 100%), so the popout slider is basically useless in that case, and if you change it, it gets reverted back to the main volume level.

So, the volume slider in the popout on Youtube is a per-video volume normalization control. That's probably why Opera doesn't add extra code to save state of your slider changes and restore them for each video.

With that said, if the popout volume control slider was a direct 1 to 1 sync of the main toolbar volume control through all videos, things would be much more intuitive. But, I guess this is a Youtube thing.