Opera 76.0.3995.0 developer update
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
A bit of topic, I know.
I keep an eye on Vivaldi browser. It is to have rewritten botched Two-Level Tab Stacks and D&D in the next 3.8 release (3.7 was born today). Adding other small options like Periodic Tab Reload (already implemented) it will make Opera soon a run for the money (if not sorta Opera Killer). Unless you have come out with another super-duper feature like Two Tiles in one window (look at Opera Neon), for example. Two window layout on FHD screen I use everyday, has advantages and disadvantages, alas. Decidedly Two Tiles should have synch/asynch switch buttons for vertical and horizontal sliders. Adding Tab Reload function and Right Sidebar option might be damn handy too.
You've made Workspaces. It's a brilliant idea, of course, but it needs to be pushed to upper level of usability. It's going older everyday, with other browsers moving ahead in strides.
Vivaldi Three Tile Layout, but without synch/asynch switched sliders!
No kidding, I think Opera needs a jump ahead in typical browsers' environment.
Wish you the best, of course, and keep my thumbs with hope for the changes.
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kened Banned last edited by@pavelopdev: I agree that Vivaldi is getting better every day. But I believe that Opera workspaces are incredibly better than the Vivaldi tab stack. I agree with you that Opera should launch a version similar to Opera Neon to give a boost to the browser market and stay ahead of the competition, in terms of innovation.
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kened Banned last edited by
@pavelopdev: The Vivaldi team wastes a lot of time with very technical implementations that will have a small reach, when it comes to users. For example, configurable menus.
To date, they have not added volume controls to the pip. -
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@kened said in Opera 76.0.3995.0 developer update:
@pavelopdev: ... Opera workspaces are incredibly better than the Vivaldi tab stack
Absolutely no doubt. That's why I stick to Opera Stable despite of the damn shoddy Snapshot. "I'm believer" one might say. Yep, I still believe developers will come to their senses and correct all the haunting us pesky bugs. I still believe they have a real "something" up in their sleeves yet. I still believe, as well, communication between us, users, and them, developers, will be rectified soon and will be more friendly aka attentive (including moderators).
BTW. Do not mention me the Defy subsystem as an example of invention.
It is out of this world yet, a premature nod to the the cashless world (read: a monetary slavery) only. 
Multi PiPs feature is a step in good direction.
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A Former User last edited by
@leocg I've watched a lot of US movies in my life, just as everyone of us, I suspect. Any weather forecast room or Disaster Emergency Centers were using umpteen monitors - small and big ones. The bigger the better. A real big one can display more information using more windows, more live camera pictures, more tables, charts, etc.
What was good 15-20 years ago, can be good or better now. A lot of us like to have many things under control - for fun, for work, and for kinky ego even.
What is it Opera developers or managers are able envision what is ahead of us in terms of web browsers and what is hidden from us common users? Information background of those people is greater, of course, but it doesn't mean we should be devoid of such petty luxuries!
Three or four personal PiPs should be part of everyday life if we deemed it we need it. Firefox can? Opera not? C'mon, buddy. 15-20 years ago Opera offered users multi tile environment. It is needed more today than yesterday.
It was only poor technological development which cut it down. Do not soap my eyes with low impact mantra. Your views of what is viable for us or not today, demonize developers only. They are not smart alecks! You too, so do not play it out.
Opera should reinvent the old good "wheels" which were the best then. Let them be better now. As I see every browser is slowly going into a micro operating system. I would have nothing against if Opera Commander based on Opera browser was born some day in close future. Let me stop here. I said enough yet.
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kened Banned last edited by
@pavelopdev: "Multi PiPs feature is a step in good direction."
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kened Banned last edited by
@pavelopdev: "I still believe, as well, communication between us, users, and them, developers, will be rectified soon and will be more friendly aka attentive (including moderators)."
This is one of the most important software development best practices. -
predrag83yu last edited by
I'm still on Opera Developer 76.0.3981.0
My OS: elementary OS 5.1.7 Hera
built on: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTSWhen I try to update over Terminal I get message that package is held...
When I try to manualy upgrade I get this error The following packages have unmet dependencies:
opera-developer: libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.4.5) but 1:0.4.4-2 is to be installedThis problem is happenig from my version till now...
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l33t4opera last edited by l33t4operaHi @predrag83yu, I have installed the latest version on one of Ubuntu LTS based boxes (the same version of lib 1:04.4-2) and it runs fine - no any major issues.
You can force the update using your package manager, if you use dpkg you can do it as follows:dpkg -i --force-all latest-dev-opera.deband you should be fine. -
predrag83yu last edited by
@l33t4opera: I have tried all even to uninstall Opera developer.
I have managed to uninstall Opera but not to install it
This is log file:
$ dpkg -i --force-all latest-dev-opera.deb
dpkg: error: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
$ sudo dpkg -i --force-all latest-dev-opera.deb
dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'latest-dev-opera.deb': No such file or directoryI dont know if broke something
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l33t4opera last edited by l33t4opera
@predrag83yu Don't worry you didn't. Sorry, my reply wasn't detailed enough.
1. By "latest-dev..." I mean downloaded DEB package, which you can download from the Opera's repository here or from the ftp servers here.
You can also download it using apt:apt download opera-developer.
2. When you download it, you can force the update using dpkg as follows:dpkg -i --force-all opera-developer_76.0.3995.0_amd64.deb.
Small note: of course you have to run it as privileged user (with root rights e.g. using sudo) or as a root. -
spike666 last edited byI have to apologise as I'm not a developer but I did find problems and I don't know where to report them. I only installed the developer version as I am switching to an M1 Mac and wanted to see if they browser is ready so I can buy the new box. One problem is fairly minor - I can't drag a tab to a new workspace. I have to right click and pick the workspace. This is an annoyance but isn't a big problem for me. The other problem is that I can't access an essential site (for me) on the Developer update.
Opera is configured identically. All the same extensions, every setting, bookmarks, and everything is synced. Almost all the tabs are the same.
The site is https://www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt/ It works fine in Opera and with Chrome, Safari, and Firefox. It does not work on this Developer update, I get the "Your connection is not private." If I click on "Help me understand," I get a message that the credentials are incorrect. I haven't yet run into the problem with any other sites. Unfortunately, this is a Portuguese government site and it may be difficult to test as many of them block IPs outside Portugal. I do get the same error when I tried an in-country VPN.
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predrag83yu last edited by
@l33t4opera: Great! Thank you!
Now is working! But someting has changed def. in prevous versions.This is result:
sudo dpkg -i --force-all opera-developer_76.0.3995.0_amd64.deb
[sudo] password:
(Reading database ... 379297 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack opera-developer_76.0.3995.0_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking opera-developer (76.0.3995.0) over (76.0.3981.0) ...
dpkg: opera-developer: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you requested:
opera-developer depends on libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.4.5); however:
Version of libxcomposite1:amd64 on system is 1:0.4.4-2.Setting up opera-developer (76.0.3995.0) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-1ubuntu3.18.04.2+elementary2~ubuntu5.0.1) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.13.3-11ubuntu1.1) ...
Processing triggers for bamfdaemon (0.5.3+18.04.20180207.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.9-2) ... -
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