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    • nadie-nada-nunca
      nadie-nada-nunca @andrew84 last edited by

      @andrew84 That was an awesome feature that I remember fondly.

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      • andrew84
        andrew84 @nadie-nada-nunca last edited by

        @nadie-nada-nunca The current cycling popup would be acceptable too if it had an option to stay opened (no need to hold down the Ctrl key) and where I can cycle tabs using my mouse wheel. Also, it should open by clicking some button in the tabs bar area.

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        • kened
          kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

          @andrew84: I remember this feature. It's useful mainly in big screens. Nowadays, Vivaldi has this feature.

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          • andrew84
            andrew84 @kened last edited by

            @kened said in Opera 73 developer:

            It's useful mainly in big screens

            Maybe.
            But the same can be said about the current Ctrl+Tab tabs cycling popup

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            • andrew84
              andrew84 @kened last edited by

              @kened said in Opera 73 developer:

              Vivaldi has this feature

              I checked it in Vivaldi, but it works in a different way, tabs (tiles) are still reduced in width.
              2020-09-26_133618.png

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              • andrew84
                andrew84 last edited by andrew84

                On 1366x768 display, 100% page zoom in browser settings, I still can't see all the section of the BABE.
                100% = 3 sections, 90% = 4 sections, 80% = 5 sections.

                2020-09-26_134359.png

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                • kened
                  kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

                  @andrew84: 👍

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                  • kened
                    kened Banned last edited by

                    Analysing the .css code of the enhanced address bar, it seems easy to let users choose the BABE background color.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

                      @kened I believe it will follow the theme.

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                      • burnout426
                        burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                        Haven't tried to check out BABE until now. Silly question. How do you get BABE to show up? The address field drop-down looks old and doesn't show what opera://enhanced-address-bar shows. It's on in settings and the flag is set to the default of enabled. Explicitly setting the flag to on doesn't make a difference.

                        73.0.3820.0 64-bit on Windows 10 OS Version 2004 (Build 19041.508). Fresh profile. No extensions, no Opera Sync or anything.

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                        • andrew84
                          andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by

                          @burnout426 You need to wait some time (while your top sites will be gathered), open sites, bookmarks and similar. I don't know if it's a bug or not.

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                          • burnout426
                            burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                            @andrew84 Thanks. Finally got it. Took a lot to trigger it, but I got it. Thanks.

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                            • andrew84
                              andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

                              @burnout426: I've found by chance that the BABE can be forced using address opera://enhanced-address-bar

                              https://forums.opera.com/post/224835

                              *I didn't expect that this is a web page, I thought this is a pane/popup.

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                              • kened
                                kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                                @leocg: 👍

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                                • kened
                                  kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by kened

                                  @andrew84: I never tested with so many tabs.

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                                  • andrew84
                                    andrew84 @kened last edited by

                                    @kened:
                                    But the recent Opera's features (tabs cycling popup, workspaces, search in tabs) are aimed at so many tabs opened at the same time and they continue promoting it.

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                                    • kened
                                      kened Banned last edited by

                                      Thinking about the future and considering that the BABE is a "web page", we could have the BABE floating along with the address bar, perhaps in the center of the browser window. It could be triggered by a keyboard shortcut or it could have a button on the sidebar. With that, we would gain space on the screen and have a cleaner look.

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                                      • andrew84
                                        andrew84 last edited by

                                        new 73.0.3827.0

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                                        • kened
                                          kened Banned @andrew84 last edited by

                                          @andrew84: I'm testing it now.

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                                          • avl
                                            avl Opera @andrew84 last edited by

                                            @andrew84 said in Opera 73 developer:

                                            @andrew84 it seems that Opera on Presto had this feature since 10th version. Far better solution than the Ctrl+Tab cycler.
                                            2020-09-26_002258.png

                                            They are for different purposes (note that Presto also had a tab cycler). Disclaimer: I've worked on all these features, both the historical ones in Presto and the current ones in Opera.

                                            The tab cycler allows you to switch between recently used tabs. The general idea is that you find the tab you're looking for either immediately (last tab used) or by scanning the first 2-3 items. You can go further if it turns out it's longer ago, but this is the exception, not the rule. Similar to the application switcher in macOS (Cmd+Tab) or Windows (Alt+Tab).

                                            You might not be the type of user that often switches between recently used tabs. That's fine, then Tab Cycler is not for you. It doesn't mean it's not useful for others that do work this way.

                                            Showing thumbnails of tabs on the tab strip allows you to contextually find a tab, especially if you haven't seen it for a while but you have a visual memory of either what it looks like or where in the tab strip it was located. It doesn't help at all to switch quickly between recently used tabs, especially when there are many, but it helps if you're looking for a tab you know is somewhere. Similar to the Dock on macOS or the task bar on Windows, or maybe Expose on macOS.

                                            Opera doesn't have a way to see a thumbnail overview of the whole tab strip right now, but it does have a contextual overview of tabs in Search Tabs. The feature we had in Presto for sure was handy for some people, but the effort needed in making it appear meant that it was tragically underused, and a new effort to bring a tab strip visualization would have to improve on that.

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