Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar

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A Former User @misterdoge last edited by A Former User

@misterdoge said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

@diegosdf Windows.

You can see al the versions here: http://get.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/desktop/

Here is the direct link of latest version 67 for windows user: http://get.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/desktop/67.0.3575.97/win/Opera_67.0.3575.97_Setup.exe

It is important to note that opera will try to update to version 68 by itself, don't let it happen. There are a bunch of tutorials explain how to do that for windows on youtube. For Mac users, All you have to do is not to click on about opera button.

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misterdoge @Guest last edited by

@diegosdf Thank you very much! I'll do this if I have no news from the dev team.

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A Former User last edited by A Former User

Speed Dial folders stuck/flash when opening new empty tab.

When you open a saved URL from within a Speed Dial folder on the Start Page,
the browser “remembers” and briefly flashes that folder expanded upon opening a new empty tab.

WIN10-64 Opera 68.0.3618.56 Norwegian. HWA on.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Not many. At the moment there are five tabs opened.

[kened]

kened Banned last edited by

What if Opera used a color to identify the active tab, as it did in the past and how is it done today by Vivaldi?! The current blue/gray is awful.

[stolis]

stolis @leocg last edited by

@leocg said:

@diegosdf People at Opera already explained that they removed the feature due to the lack of users.

Lack of users. Hm. How do you explain then, that half of posts are talking about it and asking for it's return?

[stolis]

stolis @kened last edited by

@kened: Don't bother asking. There's has being so much talk about colors but nobody seems to care. Like the withdrawal of "instant search". Take it or leave it.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @stolis last edited by

@stolis First, Opera has some dozen of millions of users, so ten, twenty people don't seem to represent the majority of users.
Also, as usually always happen, the ones who didn't like the change are more active, making it look like they are a majority.

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andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

Not many

So do I.
I guess that for you at least 2 new features are totally useless, I mean cycling popup and Search in tab. I laso think that most of the users have no more that 10-15 tabs opened at the same time in average. So how costly is to keep these 2 useless features?

@leocg said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

@stolis First, Opera has some dozen of millions of users, so ten, twenty people don't seem to represent the majority of users.

Wrong conclusion. These 20 people are only from registered users and who are quite active on forum. Also there are other resources on other languages with complaints regarding the removed features. So if quite high % of registered users are not happy, it possible to make a conclusion that the percent of unregistered users who is missing the features is also not so small as you trying to represent by protecting the Opera's recent actions .

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Search in Tabs has an interesting feature in latest developer build that, depending on how it evolve, may bring back one of my favorites features of Opera Presto.

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stolis @leocg last edited by

@leocg said:

@stolis First, Opera has some dozen of millions of users, so ten, twenty people don't seem to represent the majority of users.
Also, as usually always happen, the ones who didn't like the change are more active, making it look like they are a majority.

First: Opera used to have a dozen of million users. There’s a dozen of “desktop browsers market share” sites, showing the exact opposite. Worldwide-March 2020, opera 2,37% usage. Source https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide and many others. There’s no need mentioning.

Second: If you-they consider that the 50% of complaining posts about the withdrawal of previous instant search feature represent a minority of users, I’ve got nothing to say.

Third: The major problem every time they add a new feature, is that they also remove any kind of option for disabling them. At least in most of the cases. Allow me to say that this behavior doesn’t look nice. It seems like they don’t really care about their users. Now you might say that this is just a personal point of view which doesn’t represent the majority of opera users, but on the other side the complaining posts shows the exact opposite. Unless I have to return back to school to learn math’s from the beginning, cause it seems I can’t really understand the meaning of numbers.

So, I’d really like to know how they end up taking decisions about the usability of features if they don’t give attention on users complains in their own blog? From where they get the numbers you-they are talking about? Seems like their ignoring them.

Eventually even the existence of this blog turns to be useless as well.

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stolis @leocg last edited by

@leocg said:

@andrew84 Search in Tabs has an interesting feature in latest developer build that, depending on how it evolve, may bring back one of my favorites features of Opera Presto.

One of your "favorite feature". So, if the rest of us who want back the previous search feature trying to look like the majority, what are you doing?

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @stolis last edited by

@stolis 1 ) It's 2,37% of how much? Since there is no such info, the one I provided is still valid.

2 ) Like I said, those who are more unsatisfied with something tend to complain more, so it may look like if there was a huge number of people doing it. Many people also complain when a feature is added.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @stolis last edited by

@stolis Soory, I couldn't get the question. What do you mean by 'What are you doing"?

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andrew84 @leocg last edited by

@leocg said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

those who are more unsatisfied with something tend to complain more

It's true. Those who are very unsatisfied decided to write in the blog and on forum (or even registered to post comments). So you don't take into account those users who are just unsatisfied (not very, but unsatisfied) but don't want to register and post comments.
The similar hype in comments was when Opera implemented the 'promotional bookmarks' feature, and after many complains they added a toggle in Settings. Also there was many complains about small tiles on Speed dial in Reborn3, and the 'big tiles' toggle was added.
We don't talk here that the 'majority' of users use InstantSearch or TabMenu, but there are quite enough users who use it.

@leocg said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

Many people also complain when a feature is added.

Did you see much complaints regarding the features that can be switched off? For example, I don't use the InstantSearch, so I just disabled it and forgot. I also don't use Ctrl+tab cycler, I also don't use MyFlow, CryptoWallet, Weather, Workspaces (in current view). But all these features can be turned off and no complains here.

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stolis @leocg last edited by

@leocg said:

@stolis 1 ) It's 2,37% of how much? Since there is no such info, the one I provided is still valid.

2 ) Like I said, those who are more unsatisfied with something tend to complain more, so it may look like if there was a huge number of people doing it. Many people also complain when a feature is added.

1. Can you give me your source then, about the dozen of millions?

2. It bothers me when you insist saying that few users trying to exaggerate about it. Beside that, the more of us are complaining about the absence of leaving an option for users to decide if they want to use new features or not. We didn't ask to remove the new one added.

3. As i said, where are the numbers that make them take this removing decision? Did't got any answer to this.

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stolis @leocg last edited by

@leocg said:

@stolis Soory, I couldn't get the question. What do you mean by 'What are you doing"?

Does your own "favorite feature" automatically makes it useful for the rest of users?

That simple!

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A Former User last edited by

Bring back the Instant Search.
I just revert back to version 67.0.3575.97 because this feature was completely gone.

[stolis]

stolis @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84: My point exactly, Absence of option for turning it off.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 For sure Opera takes those users in consideration. However, we should remember that Opera knows how many people were/are using a feature and if it really worth keeping it available.