opera 66 video popup has a limit in sizing, no controls, etc

A Former User @leocg

@leocg Found problem in Opera Dev 68.0.3581.0

pip works while the flag is @ default or enabled

opera://flags/#video-pop-out-surface-layers

Flag is called - (Use surface layers in Video Pop-out)

But when the flag is disabled to get the old pip back..

the popout is black screen sound works

Note - Opera Stable 66.0.3515.44 pip old style works fine with the flag disabled..

So Opera Dev still has problem

andrew84

andrew84 @Guest

@nvmjustagirl read the topic. To get the old pop-up working without issues(freezes) two flags must be disabled. In latest Dev build one of the flags is removed and it's impossible to use the old pop-up there anymore.

A Former User @andrew84

@andrew84 You are right the dev flag (Enable the use of SurfaceLayer objects for videos) is gone..

But in Opera Stable 66.0.3515.44 the only flag that needs to be disabled is - (Use surface layers in Video Pop-out

so ya wrong about both flags..

try it and ya will see this flag - (Enable the use of SurfaceLayer objects for videos)

can be set @ default/enabled or disabled and the old pip still works

so since the 1 flag works in stable w/o 2nd flag being set

the Dev should work also with the one flag

andrew84

andrew84 @Guest

@nvmjustagirl I tried already and video just stops playing here (Win8x64).
And this is not my idea about the two flags.

A Former User @andrew84

@andrew84 hopeful Dev Team will pay better Attention to this (win 10 here)

as ya can see in last pic above stable works fine with the one flag disabled

andrew84

andrew84 @Guest

@nvmjustagirl said in No sound bar and resize option in Video Pop-up:

see

See what? That the old pop-up has issues? I think that they don't care about the old pop-pup anymore and it will be removed completely soon because of conflicting with new Chromium versions. That's why they enabled the new pop-up (which is Chromium's default PiP). I understand that this is not their fault, but it is one of the main Opera features (old and trusted feature) and they could first restyle it (add volume controls, timing and etc.) and then release. Instead of doing that they implement Workspaces, Sidebar's sliding settings panel and other things.

A Former User @andrew84

@andrew84 yes they been work 'n on pip
DNA-83944 Tweak video pop-out window geometry.. lol

another thing i've noticed in Dev is this - (OpenGL: Enabled)

opera://gpu

stable does not have this..

freelanceartist

freelanceartist

I still don't understand what the point is of the new pop-out.

andrew84

andrew84

@freelanceartist said in No sound bar and resize option in Video Pop-up:

the point is of the new pop-out

The point is pretty simple. Old pop-out conflicts with new versions of Chromium.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest

@nvmjustagirl See https://forums.opera.com/post/190672

Basically the switch to Chromium PIP is the fix for that and some other problems.

A Former User @leocg

@leocg what is Chromium solution.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest

@thegeneral Opera will use Chromium implementation of PIP instead of its own.

oktlryk

oktlryk

How come the picture detach turned into the Picture in Picture chrome plugin - I used opera for the specific functionality - now that it's back to old chrome's PiP it's not as great as it was originally - that was one of the coolest features in Opera

zaapa1

zaapa1

so sad, what did happend to the floating video option? that one that allows you to have the video on top while browser other tabs,
o loved this feature, and i also use it for several thing, one of them being the fact of see something tiny much bigger, since i can for example see a video in 1080p in a 720p screen, but then zoom it by resizing the floating video.
Also like to use it to see how much a video last when in a website i see a video that has this info hidden in order for you to see it all, sometimes its a 90 min video or so, and i like to know it before lose time with something i might not want to see if is that long,
with the floating video option you could see that info quickly,

now all dissapeared, floating video has a mas resize size allowed, and also no longer shows the damn timestamp,

very bad,

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer

See https://forums.opera.com/topic/37986/please-kindly-revert-or-make-an-option-to-use-the-older-version-of-picture-in-picture.

A Former User @leocg

@leocg okay

Monyh

Monyh

Is there a way to keep main video playing together with pop out?

A Former User

The problem I have seen today is: When I am watching a video and I choose the picture in picture, the video in the small windows starts, but the video on the browser gets black. I don't know if it was some update, cause las week it did not happened. And I liked that, because when i went back to the browser, I could watch the video in a big size, while the small window (picture in picture) works at the same time.

But I really want to have both video windows turned ON playback. It is really convenient for me! Why Opera changed it?!!! And now the external window can't be fully resized!

So, the external window does not have volume control.

e7540

e7540

They changed the popup video window with the new update and it sucks. It was so much better. Now it opens new window in the taskbar which is completely useless. Now it stop playing video in the original tab and plays it in small window only, makes no sense to me. Small video doesn't remember its size and always pops up in a very small window. When I click return to tab, it also closes the small video, and when I close the PIP it stop playing the video in main tab - these changes are for worst, not for better.
Is there any way to roll back the pop out feature?

YouDiYo

YouDiYo

This new topic is basically a complaint to the opera team at how terrible the new "picture-in-picture" mode is.
Things that the new picture-in-picture mode does wrong when compared to the previous iteration of the same feature.
-Almost all the interface within picture-in-picture window has been removed. The only remaining interface is the video time bar, that is, without the time indicated and no media controls to be seen. In other words, pretty much useless.
-The maximum size for the picture-in-picture window has been limited, and for me is limited to a quarter the area of my monitor. I was used to watching picture-in-picture window full screen and this limitation is a horrible decision
-When hovering over the picture-in-picture window it turns grey, and to pause a video a specific icon needs to be clicked, whereas before you just needed to clicked anywhere, to pause and it didn't gay over either.
-Another annoying feature is that the original video is not shown when in picture-in-picture mode, unlike previously where both picture-in-picture and original video was shown.

This is a direct comparison between the old system and the new. Which means that going from old to new they removed all functionality from this feature and in comparison is absolutely useless. This screw up from designers of this update needs to be fixed and opera's defining FUNCTIONAL feature needs to be returned. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous iteration of this system and it was a poor decision to update this feature.

Saying all this, i am aware that the new system does reflect google/google chromes 'picture-in-picture' mode, and there might be some limitations of the opera team. This complaint is more aimed at whoever, from whatever company designed this new system.