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    • blackbird71
      blackbird71 last edited by

      ...
      Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
      Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

      As best I can recall, a lot of the 11.6x turmoil revolved around crashing issues, intermittent site loading problems, authentication bugs, nsl (never-stops-loading) problems, mail problems, HTML5 issues, failure to exit completely upon shutdown, and resource inefficiencies. Each iteration of version resolved earlier problems, but introduced a few new ones. By 11.64, things were pretty solid as I recall, but I was reluctant to move from 11.52 because of concern over the whole instability trail - I want my default browser to be rock-stable. By the time the 12.x series emerged, security issues (cross-site scripting, etc) had accumulated to the point that it was simply foolish not to move forward. By the way, I believe 11.63 was only ever released for the Mac - I found a note to that effect in my Olde Opera archives, so the 11-series progression for Windows was 11.60, 11.61, 11.62, and 11.64.

      My recollection about 12, among other things, is that it abandoned 'skins' in favor of 'themes' at some point, and that really ruffled a lot of feathers where users were customizing Opera for different visual effects. Also, I think Opera's incorporation of a separate plug-in process caused some resource issues that troubled some users. It's all kind of hazy now, having been replaced by a lot of other more recent software issues. There are times (like this) when I wish I'd somehow kept a kind of diary or record of what I was focused on in those days.

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        When you grow a (black)beard and become a revered lecturer on Opera the Magnificent. :cheers:

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.

          Which is..?
          Is it the one that one should download their Operas from?

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            Which is..?

            http://get.opera.com

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            • sgunhouse
              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

                I could only see 15 and higher there.

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                • sgunhouse
                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS). Sorry, forgot you were looking for older versions.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS).

                    This one? 🙂

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      This one?

                      Yes.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Having ckicked on "1162", found

                        autoupdate
                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                        en
                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                        id
                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                        int
                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                        zh-cn
                        26/03/2012 00:00:00

                        What on earth do they mean there?
                        I kinda guess what "int" is, then "en" (which one though?), but what are "autoupdate"? "id"?

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          what are "autoupdate"?

                          Most probably the version that the auto updater gets.

                          "id"?

                          Indonesian?

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                          • sgunhouse
                            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            Of course int is international and thus is a larger file as it has multiple languages whereas en only has one.

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              Steve, which one? American English?

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                              • maryland123
                                maryland123 last edited by

                                I do not think that you start a new forum for discussions.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                  Steve, which one? American English?

                                  I guess so.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    Because some software has it very diverse - browsers included.
                                    I guess I'll take "int" then choose a language:)

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      It appeared I'd already got a couple of 1162int installers in here.
                                      Maybe the source was not right? Could give it a try anyway...

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Well, I've just updated it to 1162_int with one of those__:)__

                                        Version information
                                        Version
                                        11.62
                                        Build
                                        1347
                                        Platform
                                        Win32
                                        System
                                        Windows XP
                                        XHTML+Voice
                                        Plug-in not loaded
                                        Browser identification

                                        Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.62

                                        ☕

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                                        • komorebi1982
                                          komorebi1982 last edited by

                                          :hi:

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Dropped some "leftovers" from a tangerine I'd been eating in a fresh Dieffenbachia pot, before filling it up complete with this turf.

                                            Now I have two micro(-for-now) mandarin orange trees coming out.
                                            Help! O.O

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