• Login
    • Search
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Rules
    • Help

    Do more on the web, with a fast and secure browser!

    Download Opera browser with:

    • built-in ad blocker
    • battery saver
    • free VPN
    Download Opera

    General Chat

    Lounge
    27
    597
    486296
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • sgunhouse
      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      The download page links to a redirector - plus you typically end up with the network installer. Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.

      On the one hand, 36 is the last version that will still run on XP. On the other hand, it needs more memory than my older XP machine has. Mine is pretty much a glorified netbook, total RAM is only 1 GB - and some of that used by the onboard video. It will run, but excruciatingly slow.

      If your machine has < 2GB, don't even bother. Opera 12 is the only recent browser that will work on it at any reasonable speed.

      Reply Quote 0
        1 Reply Last reply
      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        Steve, in "System Info">"General" I only find some "ОЗУ" is like 0.99. GB.
        I should suppose this OZU is RAM, shouldn't I?

        Reply Quote 0
          1 Reply Last reply
        • sgunhouse
          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          I don't speak Russian. Probably, though. RAM is "random access memory"

          Reply Quote 0
            1 Reply Last reply
          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            Steve, you forgot the full stop.
            Yes, I know. I would've edited, but I couldn't - due to today's Big Trouble here (Friday 13th probably is to blame :devil: ).

            Reply Quote 0
              1 Reply Last reply
            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              Who knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
              I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped. 😕

              Reply Quote 0
                1 Reply Last reply
              • blackbird71
                blackbird71 last edited by

                Who knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
                I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped.

                The guy who might know was @Pesala. As I recall, he had some strong opinions about which 11.6x version was best and why, back in the day. Personally, I stopped updating Olde Opera at 11.52 until the 12.x series emerged, because of some of the turmoil regarding the 11.6x version progression - unfortunately at this distance (4-5 years later) though, it's hard to recall what all the fuss was about. I think some of it had to do with speed/stability complaints, but I could easily be wrong. I haven't seen @Pesala here in quite some time, though I've seen him active over in Vivaldi's forums.

                You might get some kind of clues by looking at the changelogs for the various Olde Opera versions here: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/

                Reply Quote 0
                  1 Reply Last reply
                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  The best thing might be to ask actual users who remember stuff.

                  I vaguely but do remember (an impression of) turmoil. Myself even participated in the discussions...

                  Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
                  Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

                  Reply Quote 0
                    1 Reply Last reply
                  • sgunhouse
                    sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    Opera 12 removed a couple of the features in 11, but I'd need to remind myself what they were. Certainly that web server functionality, though I believe it still supported widgets. Just been too long.

                    Reply Quote 0
                      1 Reply Last reply
                    • blackbird71
                      blackbird71 last edited by

                      ...
                      Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
                      Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

                      As best I can recall, a lot of the 11.6x turmoil revolved around crashing issues, intermittent site loading problems, authentication bugs, nsl (never-stops-loading) problems, mail problems, HTML5 issues, failure to exit completely upon shutdown, and resource inefficiencies. Each iteration of version resolved earlier problems, but introduced a few new ones. By 11.64, things were pretty solid as I recall, but I was reluctant to move from 11.52 because of concern over the whole instability trail - I want my default browser to be rock-stable. By the time the 12.x series emerged, security issues (cross-site scripting, etc) had accumulated to the point that it was simply foolish not to move forward. By the way, I believe 11.63 was only ever released for the Mac - I found a note to that effect in my Olde Opera archives, so the 11-series progression for Windows was 11.60, 11.61, 11.62, and 11.64.

                      My recollection about 12, among other things, is that it abandoned 'skins' in favor of 'themes' at some point, and that really ruffled a lot of feathers where users were customizing Opera for different visual effects. Also, I think Opera's incorporation of a separate plug-in process caused some resource issues that troubled some users. It's all kind of hazy now, having been replaced by a lot of other more recent software issues. There are times (like this) when I wish I'd somehow kept a kind of diary or record of what I was focused on in those days.

                      Reply Quote 0
                        1 Reply Last reply
                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        When you grow a (black)beard and become a revered lecturer on Opera the Magnificent. :cheers:

                        Reply Quote 0
                          1 Reply Last reply
                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.

                          Which is..?
                          Is it the one that one should download their Operas from?

                          Reply Quote 0
                            1 Reply Last reply
                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            Which is..?

                            http://get.opera.com

                            Reply Quote 0
                              1 Reply Last reply
                            • sgunhouse
                              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

                              Reply Quote 0
                                1 Reply Last reply
                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

                                I could only see 15 and higher there.

                                Reply Quote 0
                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                • sgunhouse
                                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                  The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS). Sorry, forgot you were looking for older versions.

                                  Reply Quote 0
                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS).

                                    This one? 🙂

                                    Reply Quote 0
                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                      This one?

                                      Yes.

                                      Reply Quote 0
                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Having ckicked on "1162", found

                                        autoupdate
                                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                        en
                                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                        id
                                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                        int
                                        26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                        zh-cn
                                        26/03/2012 00:00:00

                                        What on earth do they mean there?
                                        I kinda guess what "int" is, then "en" (which one though?), but what are "autoupdate"? "id"?

                                        Reply Quote 0
                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                          what are "autoupdate"?

                                          Most probably the version that the auto updater gets.

                                          "id"?

                                          Indonesian?

                                          Reply Quote 0
                                            1 Reply Last reply
                                          • sgunhouse
                                            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                            Of course int is international and thus is a larger file as it has multiple languages whereas en only has one.

                                            Reply Quote 0
                                              1 Reply Last reply
                                            • First post
                                              Last post

                                            Computer browsers

                                            • Opera for Windows
                                            • Opera for Mac
                                            • Opera for Linux
                                            • Opera beta version
                                            • Opera USB

                                            Mobile browsers

                                            • Opera for Android
                                            • Opera Mini
                                            • Opera Touch
                                            • Opera for basic phones

                                            • Add-ons
                                            • Opera account
                                            • Wallpapers
                                            • Opera Ads

                                            • Help & support
                                            • Opera blogs
                                            • Opera forums
                                            • Dev.Opera

                                            • Security
                                            • Privacy
                                            • Cookies Policy
                                            • EULA
                                            • Terms of Service

                                            • About Opera
                                            • Press info
                                            • Jobs
                                            • Investors
                                            • Become a partner
                                            • Contact us

                                            Follow Opera

                                            • Opera - Facebook
                                            • Opera - Twitter
                                            • Opera - YouTube
                                            • Opera - LinkedIn
                                            • Opera - Instagram

                                            © Opera Software 1995-