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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      The best thing might be to ask actual users who remember stuff.

      I vaguely but do remember (an impression of) turmoil. Myself even participated in the discussions...

      Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
      Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

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      • sgunhouse
        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        Opera 12 removed a couple of the features in 11, but I'd need to remind myself what they were. Certainly that web server functionality, though I believe it still supported widgets. Just been too long.

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        • blackbird71
          blackbird71 last edited by

          ...
          Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
          Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

          As best I can recall, a lot of the 11.6x turmoil revolved around crashing issues, intermittent site loading problems, authentication bugs, nsl (never-stops-loading) problems, mail problems, HTML5 issues, failure to exit completely upon shutdown, and resource inefficiencies. Each iteration of version resolved earlier problems, but introduced a few new ones. By 11.64, things were pretty solid as I recall, but I was reluctant to move from 11.52 because of concern over the whole instability trail - I want my default browser to be rock-stable. By the time the 12.x series emerged, security issues (cross-site scripting, etc) had accumulated to the point that it was simply foolish not to move forward. By the way, I believe 11.63 was only ever released for the Mac - I found a note to that effect in my Olde Opera archives, so the 11-series progression for Windows was 11.60, 11.61, 11.62, and 11.64.

          My recollection about 12, among other things, is that it abandoned 'skins' in favor of 'themes' at some point, and that really ruffled a lot of feathers where users were customizing Opera for different visual effects. Also, I think Opera's incorporation of a separate plug-in process caused some resource issues that troubled some users. It's all kind of hazy now, having been replaced by a lot of other more recent software issues. There are times (like this) when I wish I'd somehow kept a kind of diary or record of what I was focused on in those days.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            When you grow a (black)beard and become a revered lecturer on Opera the Magnificent. :cheers:

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.

              Which is..?
              Is it the one that one should download their Operas from?

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                Which is..?

                http://get.opera.com

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                • sgunhouse
                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

                    I could only see 15 and higher there.

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                    • sgunhouse
                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS). Sorry, forgot you were looking for older versions.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS).

                        This one? 🙂

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          This one?

                          Yes.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Having ckicked on "1162", found

                            autoupdate
                            26/03/2012 00:00:00
                            en
                            26/03/2012 00:00:00
                            id
                            26/03/2012 00:00:00
                            int
                            26/03/2012 00:00:00
                            zh-cn
                            26/03/2012 00:00:00

                            What on earth do they mean there?
                            I kinda guess what "int" is, then "en" (which one though?), but what are "autoupdate"? "id"?

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              what are "autoupdate"?

                              Most probably the version that the auto updater gets.

                              "id"?

                              Indonesian?

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                              • sgunhouse
                                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Of course int is international and thus is a larger file as it has multiple languages whereas en only has one.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  Steve, which one? American English?

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                                  • maryland123
                                    maryland123 last edited by

                                    I do not think that you start a new forum for discussions.

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                      Steve, which one? American English?

                                      I guess so.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Because some software has it very diverse - browsers included.
                                        I guess I'll take "int" then choose a language:)

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          It appeared I'd already got a couple of 1162int installers in here.
                                          Maybe the source was not right? Could give it a try anyway...

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Well, I've just updated it to 1162_int with one of those__:)__

                                            Version information
                                            Version
                                            11.62
                                            Build
                                            1347
                                            Platform
                                            Win32
                                            System
                                            Windows XP
                                            XHTML+Voice
                                            Plug-in not loaded
                                            Browser identification

                                            Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.62

                                            ☕

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