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    • sgunhouse
      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      Opera 12 removed a couple of the features in 11, but I'd need to remind myself what they were. Certainly that web server functionality, though I believe it still supported widgets. Just been too long.

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      • blackbird71
        blackbird71 last edited by

        ...
        Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
        Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

        As best I can recall, a lot of the 11.6x turmoil revolved around crashing issues, intermittent site loading problems, authentication bugs, nsl (never-stops-loading) problems, mail problems, HTML5 issues, failure to exit completely upon shutdown, and resource inefficiencies. Each iteration of version resolved earlier problems, but introduced a few new ones. By 11.64, things were pretty solid as I recall, but I was reluctant to move from 11.52 because of concern over the whole instability trail - I want my default browser to be rock-stable. By the time the 12.x series emerged, security issues (cross-site scripting, etc) had accumulated to the point that it was simply foolish not to move forward. By the way, I believe 11.63 was only ever released for the Mac - I found a note to that effect in my Olde Opera archives, so the 11-series progression for Windows was 11.60, 11.61, 11.62, and 11.64.

        My recollection about 12, among other things, is that it abandoned 'skins' in favor of 'themes' at some point, and that really ruffled a lot of feathers where users were customizing Opera for different visual effects. Also, I think Opera's incorporation of a separate plug-in process caused some resource issues that troubled some users. It's all kind of hazy now, having been replaced by a lot of other more recent software issues. There are times (like this) when I wish I'd somehow kept a kind of diary or record of what I was focused on in those days.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          When you grow a (black)beard and become a revered lecturer on Opera the Magnificent. :cheers:

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.

            Which is..?
            Is it the one that one should download their Operas from?

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Which is..?

              http://get.opera.com

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              • sgunhouse
                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

                  I could only see 15 and higher there.

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                  • sgunhouse
                    sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS). Sorry, forgot you were looking for older versions.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS).

                      This one? 🙂

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        This one?

                        Yes.

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Having ckicked on "1162", found

                          autoupdate
                          26/03/2012 00:00:00
                          en
                          26/03/2012 00:00:00
                          id
                          26/03/2012 00:00:00
                          int
                          26/03/2012 00:00:00
                          zh-cn
                          26/03/2012 00:00:00

                          What on earth do they mean there?
                          I kinda guess what "int" is, then "en" (which one though?), but what are "autoupdate"? "id"?

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            what are "autoupdate"?

                            Most probably the version that the auto updater gets.

                            "id"?

                            Indonesian?

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                            • sgunhouse
                              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              Of course int is international and thus is a larger file as it has multiple languages whereas en only has one.

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Steve, which one? American English?

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                                • maryland123
                                  maryland123 last edited by

                                  I do not think that you start a new forum for discussions.

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    Steve, which one? American English?

                                    I guess so.

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      Because some software has it very diverse - browsers included.
                                      I guess I'll take "int" then choose a language:)

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        It appeared I'd already got a couple of 1162int installers in here.
                                        Maybe the source was not right? Could give it a try anyway...

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          Well, I've just updated it to 1162_int with one of those__:)__

                                          Version information
                                          Version
                                          11.62
                                          Build
                                          1347
                                          Platform
                                          Win32
                                          System
                                          Windows XP
                                          XHTML+Voice
                                          Plug-in not loaded
                                          Browser identification

                                          Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.62

                                          ☕

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                                          • komorebi1982
                                            komorebi1982 last edited by

                                            :hi:

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