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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      Steve, in "System Info">"General" I only find some "ОЗУ" is like 0.99. GB.
      I should suppose this OZU is RAM, shouldn't I?

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      • sgunhouse
        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        I don't speak Russian. Probably, though. RAM is "random access memory"

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          Steve, you forgot the full stop.
          Yes, I know. I would've edited, but I couldn't - due to today's Big Trouble here (Friday 13th probably is to blame :devil: ).

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            Who knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
            I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped. 😕

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            • blackbird71
              blackbird71 last edited by

              Who knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
              I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped.

              The guy who might know was @Pesala. As I recall, he had some strong opinions about which 11.6x version was best and why, back in the day. Personally, I stopped updating Olde Opera at 11.52 until the 12.x series emerged, because of some of the turmoil regarding the 11.6x version progression - unfortunately at this distance (4-5 years later) though, it's hard to recall what all the fuss was about. I think some of it had to do with speed/stability complaints, but I could easily be wrong. I haven't seen @Pesala here in quite some time, though I've seen him active over in Vivaldi's forums.

              You might get some kind of clues by looking at the changelogs for the various Olde Opera versions here: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                The best thing might be to ask actual users who remember stuff.

                I vaguely but do remember (an impression of) turmoil. Myself even participated in the discussions...

                Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
                Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

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                • sgunhouse
                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  Opera 12 removed a couple of the features in 11, but I'd need to remind myself what they were. Certainly that web server functionality, though I believe it still supported widgets. Just been too long.

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                  • blackbird71
                    blackbird71 last edited by

                    ...
                    Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
                    Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

                    As best I can recall, a lot of the 11.6x turmoil revolved around crashing issues, intermittent site loading problems, authentication bugs, nsl (never-stops-loading) problems, mail problems, HTML5 issues, failure to exit completely upon shutdown, and resource inefficiencies. Each iteration of version resolved earlier problems, but introduced a few new ones. By 11.64, things were pretty solid as I recall, but I was reluctant to move from 11.52 because of concern over the whole instability trail - I want my default browser to be rock-stable. By the time the 12.x series emerged, security issues (cross-site scripting, etc) had accumulated to the point that it was simply foolish not to move forward. By the way, I believe 11.63 was only ever released for the Mac - I found a note to that effect in my Olde Opera archives, so the 11-series progression for Windows was 11.60, 11.61, 11.62, and 11.64.

                    My recollection about 12, among other things, is that it abandoned 'skins' in favor of 'themes' at some point, and that really ruffled a lot of feathers where users were customizing Opera for different visual effects. Also, I think Opera's incorporation of a separate plug-in process caused some resource issues that troubled some users. It's all kind of hazy now, having been replaced by a lot of other more recent software issues. There are times (like this) when I wish I'd somehow kept a kind of diary or record of what I was focused on in those days.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      When you grow a (black)beard and become a revered lecturer on Opera the Magnificent. :cheers:

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.

                        Which is..?
                        Is it the one that one should download their Operas from?

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Which is..?

                          http://get.opera.com

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                          • sgunhouse
                            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.

                              I could only see 15 and higher there.

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                              • sgunhouse
                                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS). Sorry, forgot you were looking for older versions.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS).

                                  This one? 🙂

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    This one?

                                    Yes.

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      Having ckicked on "1162", found

                                      autoupdate
                                      26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                      en
                                      26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                      id
                                      26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                      int
                                      26/03/2012 00:00:00
                                      zh-cn
                                      26/03/2012 00:00:00

                                      What on earth do they mean there?
                                      I kinda guess what "int" is, then "en" (which one though?), but what are "autoupdate"? "id"?

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        what are "autoupdate"?

                                        Most probably the version that the auto updater gets.

                                        "id"?

                                        Indonesian?

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                                        • sgunhouse
                                          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                          Of course int is international and thus is a larger file as it has multiple languages whereas en only has one.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Steve, which one? American English?

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