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    • sgunhouse
      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS). Sorry, forgot you were looking for older versions.

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        The older versions are under opera/windows (or whatever OS).

        This one? 🙂

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          This one?

          Yes.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            Having ckicked on "1162", found

            autoupdate
            26/03/2012 00:00:00
            en
            26/03/2012 00:00:00
            id
            26/03/2012 00:00:00
            int
            26/03/2012 00:00:00
            zh-cn
            26/03/2012 00:00:00

            What on earth do they mean there?
            I kinda guess what "int" is, then "en" (which one though?), but what are "autoupdate"? "id"?

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              what are "autoupdate"?

              Most probably the version that the auto updater gets.

              "id"?

              Indonesian?

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              • sgunhouse
                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                Of course int is international and thus is a larger file as it has multiple languages whereas en only has one.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Steve, which one? American English?

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                  • maryland123
                    maryland123 last edited by

                    I do not think that you start a new forum for discussions.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Steve, which one? American English?

                      I guess so.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Because some software has it very diverse - browsers included.
                        I guess I'll take "int" then choose a language:)

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          It appeared I'd already got a couple of 1162int installers in here.
                          Maybe the source was not right? Could give it a try anyway...

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Well, I've just updated it to 1162_int with one of those__:)__

                            Version information
                            Version
                            11.62
                            Build
                            1347
                            Platform
                            Win32
                            System
                            Windows XP
                            XHTML+Voice
                            Plug-in not loaded
                            Browser identification

                            Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.62

                            ☕

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                            • komorebi1982
                              komorebi1982 last edited by

                              :hi:

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Dropped some "leftovers" from a tangerine I'd been eating in a fresh Dieffenbachia pot, before filling it up complete with this turf.

                                Now I have two micro(-for-now) mandarin orange trees coming out.
                                Help! O.O

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  Enjoy!

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    Dropped some "leftovers" from a tangerine I'd been eating in a fresh Dieffenbachia pot, before filling it up complete with this turf.
                                    Now I have two micro(-for-now) mandarin orange trees coming out.
                                    Help!

                                    They're 6.

                                    Any advice?

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                                    • blackbird71
                                      blackbird71 last edited by

                                      6 inches? 6 plants? 6 weeks old? As far as advice, it all depends on what you want to do with them... outdoors and in the right climate, they can reach 25 feet tall (~8 meters) unless they're a dwarf hybrid variety (which is probably not the case if you planted seeds from a commercial food mandarin). They will not tolerate freezing or standing in water-soaked soil and require full sun with lots of citrus and organic fertilizers. There are some folks in cooler climate areas who plant them in very large pots on wheels, rolling them inside during cold seasons and outside after all danger of frost/freeze. Because they require a lot of sunlight, there may not be many places inside a typical house that will work well unless one has a large 'patio' or 'picture' window fully facing the winter sun. Usually if they're grown indoors/outdoors, they won't reach 'full' height - but you still may need to eventually prune them to keep them from hitting the ceiling.

                                      Another thing to consider is that if they're grown indoors/outdoors, the plants tend to be under greater stress and that makes them more susceptible to infestation from white scale insects (which can be picked off readily, but you have to keep checking for new outbreaks).

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Black, thing is they're 1) in a pot occupied by a dieffenbachia, 2) too close to one another.

                                        They're not rushing to grow now having reached an inch or two, but I've no idea if their underground parts are growing and at what rate. The seeds are rather deep under - up to several inches.
                                        So I'm thinking I'd better outpot one or two the sooner the better.

                                        I'm aware of their requirements. I was thinking about giving them out to somebody with a proper place to have them: some well-lit offices/halls, not know of someone with orangeries.
                                        Well, the local library said they'd take one.

                                        1. What about their root parts' grow rate? Should one worry 1) they'll entangle with one another, 2) they'll mess with the dieffenbachia's roots?
                                        2. Should I exercise some caution when digging them out to repot separately?

                                        PSt: I hope they're not gonna be growing too much during this winter season. Looking o'k, assymmetric a bit but o'k for now.
                                        Three have grown to an inch or two; the three others that I can see up are closer to the pot's rim and very close to one another, so/and they've not grown that much - they look undecisive. Can they be one with three branches though? Within an inch together.

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                                        • blackbird71
                                          blackbird71 last edited by

                                          Their root systems are almost certainly growing faster than the above-ground parts. If you're going to move them, probably the sooner the better for the sake of minimizing damage to the dieffenbachia's roots. I would carefully dig down around one of the mandarins and try to remove it for repotting with as little damage to its fine roots as possible, checking to see just how much overall root size that one has. The mandarins near the edge may be easier to get at, but the dieffenbachia's root ball may also be pretty thick and entangled up against the pot wall if it's an older plant and becoming pot-bound. Generally, a plant's roots are reasonably durable for gentle handling, the underground world being what it is with burrowing critters and all, but use reasonable care. Try not to break off major roots of the seedlings, especially any central tap-roots, and avoid excessive handling that breaks off the finer roots.

                                          Be ready to replant the mandarins immediately when they're removed, so their roots don't dry out - which means have your pots and potting soil right at hand and big enough to handle whatever root size you run into. Replant to the same depth as they were originally, which might mean a fairly deep pot. Water immediately after repotting (without drowning them) to settle the soil around the roots to prevent drying out from all the buried micro-pockets of air in the disturbed soil, but I'd hold off fertilizing of any kind until at least two weeks after repotting. Be sure the new pot has drain holes and a dish to catch run-off without damaging whatever it's sitting on.

                                          Probably each mandarin will be roughly similar in root length and breadth since that's initially age-driven, so you can repeat the process accordingly for the rest that you want to move. The ones too entangled with the dieffenbachia could cause root shock to the dieffenbachia, so I'd move very slowly and carefully in such cases. If it comes down to it, you may have to sacrifice some of the mandarins for the sake of the dieffenbachia, in which case, just cut the mandarin stems off as far down as you can safely reach. The one(s) at the pot edge are most likely separate plants, since the mandarin doesn't ordinarily branch out underground.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            ...but the dieffenbachia's root ball may also be pretty thick and entangled up against the pot wall if it's an older plant and becoming pot-bound.

                                            No, it is a freshly potted offshoot.

                                            1. Yes, I should outpot them soon.
                                            2. The pot(s) should be rather deep.

                                            The one(s) at the pot edge are most likely separate plants, since the mandarin doesn't ordinarily branch out underground.

                                            Noticed! 🆗

                                            The ones too entangled with the dieffenbachia could cause root shock to the dieffenbachia, so I'd move very slowly and carefully in such cases. If it comes down to it, you may have to sacrifice some of the mandarins for the sake of the dieffenbachia...

                                            You're sure I can't leave some one or two within the dieffenbachia's pot?
                                            Ever? Damage inevitable, they can't coexist like? 😕


                                            ...but I'd hold off fertilizing of any kind until at least two weeks after repotting. Be sure the new pot has drain holes and a dish...

                                            1. I repot I use a new, reach soil, just bought or something: so I usually follow that it doesn't need fertilising for a year, or a season.
                                            2. I always.

                                            So, should I replant some right away - this very autumn?
                                            I'd wait for the rest till the next spring. Like those near the edge. As the dieff is freshly repotted, not being "pot-bound" yet. 😕

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