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    • martingrun
      martingrun last edited by

      you should to warn people before this update, there is high possibility to lost all personal data - passwords, dial ups, etc
      As it happen to me. So after 20yrs of using Opera since version 4, this was the last drop.

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      • paul-durham
        paul-durham @kmara last edited by

        @kmara: No problem. I do understand everyone's frustrations with the recent issues. See this recent post of mine: https://forums.opera.com/post/323418

        I am glad the Sync website helped. Over the years I have collected various Opera URL's.

        I have previously lost local Opera data after an Opera crash. I lost all my tabs & tab islands, but not bookmarks or extensions. I have never knowingly lost any data from my Opera account (via Opera Sync). My bookmarks and tabs are most important to me, and less so my extensions. Occasionally (once every few months) I export my bookmarks and update a Google Drive spreadsheet with a list of my extensions. I have tested hundreds of extensions over the years but currently only install & use 6. I copy the bookmarks export to Google Drive.

        To protect my open tabs (I usually have > 100 open) I use the Session Buddy extension. I have tested numerous extensions to perform this function but Session Buddy works the best for me. It periodically and automatically backs up all open tabs, and I can manually trigger a backup when I am about do something potentially risky (like manually updating Opera). Restoring all tabs is extremely easy. Also, it is very handy when moving from one PC to another.

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        • Kiny-Ohara
          Kiny-Ohara @paul-durham last edited by

          @paul-durham I did not know about session buddy. I'll install it asap. Thanks for the clue!

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          • thelittlebrowserthatcould
            thelittlebrowserthatcould @Kiny-Ohara last edited by

            @kiny-ohara The Marvellous Suspender (also from the Chrome Store) is also worth having. Apart from its primary function it also has session management, with the advantage of exporting/importing plain text files of URLs. This allows a session to be divided up into, say, files of 50 URLs that are easier to sort between workspaces, for those of us who have hundreds of tabs. Sadly, we don't have a session management option that is aware of workspaces, which makes me wonder if anyone at Opera uses the browser intensively.

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            • spike666
              spike666 @martingrun last edited by

              @martingrun Nothing is lost, it just isn't in the right place. I recovered everything following the instructions on rolling back.

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              • stolis
                stolis @rick2 last edited by stolis

                @rick2 said in Introducing Opera 102:

                Disabling auto-update will only make people keep using old, vulnerable, outdated versions of the browser, which could be even worse than this.

                There's nothing wrong using an "older" version if it works fine without creating problems on your browsing. Most of opera updates are about bug fixes or perhaps new features implementation which some people may not like or find them unnecessary. I've also seen many times, bugs been fixed to reappear. Let's not talk about how long it takes them to update chromium.
                I'm using more than five browsers and besides opera, all have the decency to inform me about the existence of new versions or updates letting me decide moving or not on installing them.
                This way I can check what's new, have all the time to backup my profile in case something goes wrong and been able to restore it much sooner instead of spending time to setup everything from the beginning.
                That's why an option been able to disable auto-updates or at least let me decide what to do with them is essential. Something that opera refuses to offer to it's users and finally we all show the results of this kind of policy they insist on following for so long. Still trying to understand what's the logic behind it, denying something that obvious.
                I feel much more vulnerable by this than anything else.

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                • sklunk
                  sklunk @hectormaciasa1979 last edited by

                  @hectormaciasa1979 said:

                  @gmiazga: I use Opera in three different computers, Laptop, Work and Home and it happened in all of them. The same exact problem.

                  Also I hope you take this opportunity to finally fix the old problem in your installer, I get the offline installer and many times it starts downloading I don't know WTF is it downloading and ends up in error after I force close it, than run again.

                  I've reported this for years, has happened since at least 2016 or 2015. Windows 10 and 11.

                  Another user with this same problem. As I said previously I am behind a firewall so have been using the offline installers since around 2006. Over the last couple of years I have experienced this same "hangup" with the installer. I usually cancel it through Task Manager then restart the install and all goes well so I've learned to just live with it ....

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                  • ajs4opera
                    ajs4opera @stolis last edited by ajs4opera

                    @stolis I couldn't agree more! Users should have the choice, which virtually every other program, let alone browser, offers.

                    I seem to have gotten lucky this morning, or at least Opera finally came through with suspension of the 102 update, since I have my tab islands as I left them last night, and the rolled-back version still operating. I hope it stays that way.

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                    • sklunk
                      sklunk @gmiazga last edited by

                      @gmiazga:

                      Any update on the progress? It's been 4 days since you posted that you were trying to recreate the issue with a "fake" profile.
                      @paul-durham may be onto something with the time it takes. I can't remember if I clicked on Opera again during the 102 install, but it's possible I did and maybe that made it treat me like a new account. Is there a definite group of people who waited the entire time for the install to finish automatically and ALL of them had the profile migration work correctly?

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                      • sklunk
                        sklunk last edited by sklunk

                        Well I just noticed a newer version 102.0.4880.29 on the ftp and offliner installer sites (timestamped 29-Aug-2023 13:41).
                        Who wants to be a guinea pig??? 😧

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                        • spike666
                          spike666 @sklunk last edited by

                          @sklunk I did it, everything is fine. Restarted Opera twice and my computer (Mac) once just to see that it was all there. I wasn't too worried, despite what some people say, the old profile is there even with the older 102 update. I did save all the profile stuff fresh just in case.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User @spike666 last edited by A Former User

                            @spike666 So did I just a moment before. There's no loss and no issue as it wasn't with the update to 102 before as well.
                            I really regret what happened to those that are rightly complaining as it seems. But there seem to be at least a silent minority or even majority that's fine. So am I.
                            Hopefully this new update fixes it for all.

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                            • sklunk
                              sklunk @sklunk last edited by leocg

                              WooHoo - it seems to work!

                              I installed 102.0.4880.29 over top of 101.0.4853.58 without any problems. It moved all my data and everything works. You still get the silly "O" splash screen and noise, but you can disable that by deleting the "opera_gx_splash.exe" file (but you need to do this every time Opera updates).

                              Disclaimer -- As I have posted before, I am behind a firewall and use the offline installer. This is what worked for me. I have not tried Opera autoupdate so I don't know if that works or not.

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                              • BONG14
                                BONG14 @plovec last edited by

                                @plovec Thank you - worked! Made my day.

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                                • kmara
                                  kmara @paul-durham last edited by

                                  @paul-durham Yes, lesson learned here, I will also export with each new set of research. Thanks again Paul.

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                                  • letkin
                                    letkin last edited by

                                    Lost all my tabs and history, etc., in the update. How do I initiate the "rollback" noted in another post to try and get them back?

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                                    • paul-durham
                                      paul-durham @kmara last edited by

                                      @kmara It's a pleasure. All the best with your future browsing.

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                                      • Livorno
                                        Livorno last edited by

                                        @celticcross I've heard the same about Firefox, its days are numbered.

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                                        • Livorno
                                          Livorno @stolis last edited by

                                          @stolis Why does Opera refuse to allow a cancel updates option? This will turn away current Opera users. The field is loaded with other browsers. One would think Opera was aware of the competition and work with its users.

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                                          • Bitul83
                                            Bitul83 last edited by

                                            Devs finally fixed the annoying issue on version 102.0.4880.16, I installed version 102.0.4880.29 manually over the older version 101.0.4843.58. Thanks a lot for the fix

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