Opera 102.0.4857.0 developer

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: Try to do the same procedure with other browsers like Yandex and Firefox, which have pip windows with volume control. The volume defined in the pip window does not change, which for me is more than logical.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened Like I said, the video pop-out reflects the normalized volume, that is controlled by YouTube.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened Check https://www.diyvideostudio.com/youtube-loudness-standard/ and
https://productionadvice.co.uk/stats-for-nerds/

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: We are talking about different things my friend. I repeat: the pip window volume control is not working. If you can't understand what I'm saying, do a test for yourself: install Opera 99 (do a clean install) and you'll see that pip's window volume control works, as it should. You choose the volume level that is most convenient for you and that will be the video volume. Test this with other browsers as well, such as Yandex and Firefox.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened Do you understand that the volume in the video pop-out is the normalized one?

Put the volume on YouTube to 100% and open the video pop-out. Now see that the volume in the pop-out is not at 100% but at the volume equivalent to the normalized one.

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multiwebinc last edited by

Do you guys ever plan on making the scrollbar go to the edge of the screen again for maximized windows?

[A Former User]

A Former User @multiwebinc last edited by

I would love to hear the official reason for why that is not a preferred choice.

Obviously, it is possible to code – even while keeping the 100% irrelevant and ugly borders.

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: You're crazy.

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aaa839 @aaa839 last edited by aaa839

@aaa839 @leocg Please help...
After I revert back to 101.0.4018 it work perfectly...
So what going on and why It cannot loading??

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: I don't care about this normalized volume bullshit, what I want is the pip window volume control to work. I want pip window volume control, control video volume. Did I make myself clear?

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened Yes, since the first post. And I'm trying to explain why things work that way.

See YouTube's volume as the master one and the video pop-out volume as a secondary one. The secondary volume can't be higher than the master one.

Also, video pop-out has its own volume and doesn't control the origin video volume as you already know.

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: Again: Youtube video volume is "X", I open the pip window, change the volume to "Y", a few milliseconds later, the video volume in the pip window goes back to "X". It doesn't matter if "X" is greater or less than "Y". The volume in the pip window always goes back to the same as the tab where the video is playing. This is not desired behavior. It makes no sense to have a volume control in the pip window if I can't control the volume in the pip window. Do a test.

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: I hope someone from the Opera team reads these messages and fixes the bug.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened I guess it's more of a feature request.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened It's not easy tio test when very few browsers have volume control on video pop-out (picture-in-pricture). I check Firefox, Chrome and Vivaldi and none of them had it.

Anyway, normalized volume is the maximum (real) volume allowed by YouTube for that video. And that's why video pop-out volume doesn't go beyond that.

In other video services you probably don't see it happening.

[kened]

kened Banned @leocg last edited by

@leocg: You can test with Opera 99, Yandex and Firefox. What is happening is that the pip window volume control is not working on youtube. You change the volume in the pip window, but it goes back to the previous level (whatever that may be) a few seconds later.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @kened last edited by

@kened said in Opera 102.0.4857.0 developer:

it goes back to the previous level

Hi.
Do you mean that visually the volume bar is also jumping back or you just hear the volume returns back?
If visually, I can't confirm it here. By hearing I can't say for sure.

@leocg the same question. Under 'normalization' you mean that visually the volume level bar should go back to the normalized one or you just hear it?

For example:
On some video volume is 100%/52%(in nerd stats). When I set 100% volume (full volume bar) on youtube video and then open PiP, I see half of the volume level bar in the PiP. But after I adjust the volume level in the PiP nothing is jumping back and visually the volume bar is fully synchronized with the one on youtube page. If I will adjust the volume level on youtube page again, the PIP's volume visually will be reduced at 50% again.

[andrew84]

andrew84 @andrew84 last edited by andrew84

@andrew84 Edit: I could reproduce the issue in O95, but only for live (streamable) videos so far.
If I set on youtube page 30% volume level for example and then in PiP I set full volume(100%), after few second the level will jump back to 30% automatically.
The same behavior in the latest developer version.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

@kened Here Firefox doesn't have volume control on PIP.

Will try checking on Opera 99 but there could have been a change in Chromium, so it would be interesting to test with the same Chromium version.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 I tested with the YouTube volume at 100% but with a normalized volume lower than that, like 70%.
In video pop-out the volume slider is at 70% and if I move it to 100%, it returns to 70% after a while.