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    • kened
      kened Banned @leocg last edited by

      @leocg: Go to youtube.com, click on any video, activate the pip window, change the volume of the video in the pip window, wait a fraction of a second and see what happens. Then you tell me about it.

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

        @kened It returns to the normalized volume level.

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        • kened
          kened Banned @leocg last edited by

          @leocg: Due to some intellectual limitation on my part, I cannot understand you. From your point of view, is this a desirable pip window behavior?

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          • aaa839
            aaa839 last edited by

            My opera keep crashing after update to 102.0.4857...
            It show an opera animation logo, the browser windows does not appear after the splash screen.
            The Opera process in task manager just keep on stuck in 1-2% cpu usage for quite a long time.

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

              @kened It's an expected YouTube behavior.

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              • kened
                kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                @leocg: My friend, I noticed that you talk about things you don't know. I use the pip feature, every day, all day long, in all versions of Opera, on many websites, and I can say with certainty that this behavior is not expected. This has never been the case, nor does it make sense for you to think this is expected behavior.

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                • kened
                  kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                  @leocg: Try to do the same procedure with other browsers like Yandex and Firefox, which have pip windows with volume control. The volume defined in the pip window does not change, which for me is more than logical.

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

                    @kened Like I said, the video pop-out reflects the normalized volume, that is controlled by YouTube.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

                      @kened Check https://www.diyvideostudio.com/youtube-loudness-standard/ and
                      https://productionadvice.co.uk/stats-for-nerds/

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                      • kened
                        kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                        @leocg: We are talking about different things my friend. I repeat: the pip window volume control is not working. If you can't understand what I'm saying, do a test for yourself: install Opera 99 (do a clean install) and you'll see that pip's window volume control works, as it should. You choose the volume level that is most convenient for you and that will be the video volume. Test this with other browsers as well, such as Yandex and Firefox.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

                          @kened Do you understand that the volume in the video pop-out is the normalized one?

                          Put the volume on YouTube to 100% and open the video pop-out. Now see that the volume in the pop-out is not at 100% but at the volume equivalent to the normalized one.

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                          • multiwebinc
                            multiwebinc last edited by

                            Do you guys ever plan on making the scrollbar go to the edge of the screen again for maximized windows?

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                              A Former User @multiwebinc last edited by

                              I would love to hear the official reason for why that is not a preferred choice.

                              Obviously, it is possible to code – even while keeping the 100% irrelevant and ugly borders.

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                              • kened
                                kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                                @leocg: You're crazy.

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                                • aaa839
                                  aaa839 @aaa839 last edited by aaa839

                                  @aaa839 @leocg Please help...
                                  After I revert back to 101.0.4018 it work perfectly...
                                  So what going on and why It cannot loading??

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                                  • kened
                                    kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                                    @leocg: I don't care about this normalized volume bullshit, what I want is the pip window volume control to work. I want pip window volume control, control video volume. Did I make myself clear?

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

                                      @kened Yes, since the first post. And I'm trying to explain why things work that way.

                                      See YouTube's volume as the master one and the video pop-out volume as a secondary one. The secondary volume can't be higher than the master one.

                                      Also, video pop-out has its own volume and doesn't control the origin video volume as you already know.

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                                      • kened
                                        kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                                        @leocg: Again: Youtube video volume is "X", I open the pip window, change the volume to "Y", a few milliseconds later, the video volume in the pip window goes back to "X". It doesn't matter if "X" is greater or less than "Y". The volume in the pip window always goes back to the same as the tab where the video is playing. This is not desired behavior. It makes no sense to have a volume control in the pip window if I can't control the volume in the pip window. Do a test.

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                                        • kened
                                          kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                                          @leocg: I hope someone from the Opera team reads these messages and fixes the bug.

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

                                            @kened I guess it's more of a feature request.

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