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ralf-brinkmann last edited by@ghirahim Yes, I think this is all the same problem, that Xantares and I already found. The search doesn't work, the auto completion doesn't work and the search engines shortcuts don't work. Not always, but mostly.
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ralf-brinkmann last edited by
I went back to the former version 73.0.3856.0 and now I have the same problem there. The address bar search doesn't work, the auto completion (of pages saved as speed dial or bookmark) doesn't work and the search engines shortcuts don't work. Mostly, not always. Maybe it has something to do with Windows 10x64 20h2.
Note: I did not install the old version over the new one. I deleted the new 74.x completely and copied the old 73.x back from my backup folder (stand alone version).
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ralf-brinkmann last edited by
@ghirahim Before I also did not have this problem. Have you upgraded to Windows 20h2? And have you tried out to copy your old 73.x Opera back? Suddenly the problem is there.
I found out, when I open a new tab and the address bar search does not work, I reload the (empty) page with SHIFT-F5 or CTRL-F5 (reload without cache) and then it works. -
tina Opera last edited byHi @andrew84.
- Unfortunately can't reproduce it for Babe. This is how it looks like for me in Babe on latest 074 build:
Which build and OS do you have?
In Search in Tabs as I can see, this icon was removed intently. But probably it will be useful, so I will send your suggestions to designers. - I'm not sure that I understand correctly your comparison, but if we're talking about TabMenu feature that was native ui dropdown, according to me it works similarly - if you change a context (close Tab, close window, open another Tab etc.) it closes. Here's a video from Opera57
https://imgur.com/a/eosPGLI - Yes, some columns are disabled if resolution is low. It's a good idea, not to react on zoom settings, in EasySetup
Will move this on a suggestion list
- Unfortunately can't reproduce it for Babe. This is how it looks like for me in Babe on latest 074 build:
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@tina look here https://forums.opera.com/post/231890 (https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2020/11/opera-73-beta/#comment-231890). There are more screenshots and confirmations from other users.
- I guess I understood what has changed. If there was only 1 tab opened in new window, then this is not determined and only tab title is shown.
Previously in 73.0.3827.0 build (and including TabMenu) it worked even for a single tab in new window.
I use Win 8.1 x64
- I guess I understood what has changed. If there was only 1 tab opened in new window, then this is not determined and only tab title is shown.
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andrew84 last edited by
@andrew84 suggestion.
If there was only 1 tab opened in new window, then the window icon + tab's title should be shown. If more than 1 tab, then tabs count in brackets (or similar). next to tab's title Windows with 'x' tabs is not so informative.
SearchTabs is more informative because it has the both active tab's (at the moment of closing) title and windows indication, but Search tab has much more space.
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spiryts last edited by
@ralf-brinkmann Same here, but if I switch between tabs it's help with this bug.
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tina Opera last edited by
@andrew84 It looks like a different case and probably mostly connecting with a feature design. If there's only one Tab in Window, Recently Closed used a web page icon instead of 'generic window' icon. I've reported this as 'DNA-89951: [Babe] Recently Closed section doesn't show generic icon for single Tab in closed window'.
Also reported a problem with Zoom from your previous comment as DNA-89940:Babe shouldn't react on Zoom from Settings -
andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@tina Thx for reporting the babe's zooming issue (by the way, I'm reporting it since July).
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Also, take a look at ugly 'Recently closed' items on the BABE. Random bug but also confirmed by other users
https://forums.opera.com/post/231927
https://forums.opera.com/post/232265
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and the SearchTab's active tab closing. I don't mean that I click somewhere outside the SearchTabs popup. I'm closing an active tab on the SearchTabs. Explained using screenshots here https://forums.opera.com/post/231890)
I'll copy here too
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tina Opera last edited by
@andrew84 Sorry for late report with Babe zooming. It's a kind of a corner case, because Zoom didn't affect Babe if you change it using a shortcuts, from Zoom pop-up or from OMenu.
About 'Recently closed' image - we'll also discuss this on suggestion meeting. I can't define it as a bug. If user didn't have recently closed websites this image should shown up. Also, if user didn't close any website for a couple of sessions - he will get an image. Another question, is it better to hide the whole 'Recently closed' section or to show it with this image. But it rather an investigation task for UX and usability designer. -
andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@tina Yes, the BABE's zooming issue relates only to the default page zoom in browser Settings, not OMenu > Zoom.
So this an intended image (like 'image not found' and similar empty templates)? Ok, but I really thought that there's some text distortion issue. I'd never guess that this is an image. Of course, I'd better prefer just empty space or no 'recently closed' column visible at all if there are no recently closed items
And it's perfect to have customizable Babe's pane where I can select (checkboxes) what columns I really need. Maybe that also will partially resolve (if the horizontal columns scrolling is not acceptable) the 1366x768 display issue where columns are not visible even on 100% zoom.
+suggestions here https://forums.opera.com/post/233040*And what about active tab closing using the SearchInTabs popup, did you finally manage to reproduce the issue?
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andrew84 last edited by
@tina said in Opera 74 developer:
behavior comes from Chromium
Ok.,
But in TabMenu it works correctly - after closing active tabs the dropdown stays opened.
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tina Opera last edited by
@andrew84 Sorry, are you talking about issue with Recently Closed Tabs and Window icon? Because I think .gif shows something else. Btw, I have already answered on this question about Open Tabs in Tabs Menu and also attach a .gif for you from 05x, as I remember
It was another feature based on old code, not sure that we can mixed them up in that particular case.
Anyway, I think it's a bug on this .gif, because Tab Menu was a native_ui and it should works as other native elements in the case of closing a Tab. -
andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@tina said in Opera 74 developer:
issue with Recently Closed Tabs and Window icon?
No, currently I'm talking about the active tabs closing on the SearchInTabs popup (I was talking about the window icon too but it's already reported as I understand)
@tina said in Opera 74 developer:
I have already answered on this question about Open Tabs in Tabs Menu and also attach a .gif for you from 05x, as I remember
Yes, but on your .gif you're closing tabs by clicking on the tab itself in the tabs toolbar. Of course, in this case the TabMenu will be closed because there was a click outside the popup.
@tina said in Opera 74 developer:
it's a bug on this .gif
Maybe, I don't know. But it's convenient and looks logical.
*The SearchInTabs popup was created to manage a lot of opened tabs. Let's assume that I want to close some tabs (for example Opera related), I search for 'Opera' and then I'm closing the tabs one by one. If the found tabs include an active tab, the popup will be closed too and I will have to open the popup and search again?
And why this happens only with active tabs.. I close background tabs and the popup stays opened.*Edit: I also think that active tab should be marked in the SearchTabs (highlighted or using bold text)
