Opera 104.0.4944.33 Stable update
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andrew84 last edited by
@karen-arzumanyan I have such feeling that they can't handle with all these issues. There's total mess in many places, which directly affect on use of the browser's basic functionality. It seems that the level of developer team or/and test team or/and QA team become significantly lower. There's also a lot of ' flattering' comments on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/
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raphaelbm last edited by leocg
@ricardob said:
Congrats for upgrading Chromium to an old version, now that a new one was released yesterday.
This release announces "This update is all about updating Chromium to version 118.0.5993.96. "
That is great But: The Chrome announcement says 118.0.5993.96 is for Mac! (Not Windows?)Wil that Mac version work OK for Opera for Windows???
See the Chrome announcement at:
https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2023/10/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_19.html
It says:
"Stable Channel Update for Desktop Thursday, October 19, 2023
The Stable channel has been updated to 118.0.5993.96 for Mac which will roll out over the coming days/weeks"
etc etc...Thx Raphael
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firuz-u7 last edited byShowing tab thumbnails on hover is a very inconvenient feature where almost the entire screen is closed, you can return the old tab thumbnails like in Opera Presto it was a brilliant idea all new browsers use the Opera Presto option when a small tab thumbnail appears above the return the old option please
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A Former User last edited by
I've seen two strange behaviors coming with this update (again):
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Sometimes I won't find the "x" to close a tab. I haven't noticed a principle but it seems to happen rather to tabs close to the left side.
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The sidepanels seem to increase with every new click on them. Again, I have to say, because that happened some versions ago, at least for me. There's still a difference. Other than last time, the field only increases minimally, but it still increases nevertheless.
#Bug Side panels with every click
Otherwise I haven't found any issue.
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@healingcross said in Opera 104.0.4944.33 Stable update:
Otherwise I haven't found any issue.
Really?
For example check this issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/comments/17azcy4/new_update_tabs_are_completely_fcked_zero_quality/ -
A Former User last edited by
@andrew84 I‘ve been using it for quite a while now. There are some minor issues now and then, but not so much, I‘d like to change.
I‘ve seen some gruntling about it, but others are rather enthusiastic.
I‘ve tried Vivaldi for some days, but there were even lots of bugs more, especially on Mac. And a lot of refinement missing.
On the other hand many other browsers are really missing functonality that‘s built into Opera.
I‘ve seen many complains by you in this Forum. But if your experience with Opera is so horrible, why bother with it any longer? You can change that easily, you know.
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andrew84 last edited by
@healingcross My experience is horrible not with Opera (I'm using it since when it was yet on Presto engine ), but with Opera One. I'm still using Opera daily, but pre-One version.
I don't know about Mac, I never used it.
But here on Win 10 the 'One' version is just unusable for me, the glitches (when using the basic functionality) are everywhere if comparing it with pre-One version. And instead of restoring the basics, they're implement the useless animations and similar staff. And this is not only my opinion.@healingcross said in Opera 104.0.4944.33 Stable update:
Which browser would you prefer to Opera then, anyways? I‘m eager to know.
I don't. know, there's no much difference if use shortly some approved browser to make online payments and similar. Usually I use Edge or Chrome for these purposes.
@healingcross said in Opera 104.0.4944.33 Stable update:
why bother with it any longer? You can change that easily, you know.
Yes. I know. We are talking here about reasonable complaints about basic staff, which looks broken. And known bugs (obvious bugs) are migrating from one Stable release to another. I think you understand that one of the main purposes of this blog and forum is feedback. If you think, that if some bug is fixed after negative comment this is bad, then it's your choice.
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cookie-drummer last edited by cookie-drummer@andrew84: I simply suspect they are having personal problems within development team. It's hard to believe how many obvious bugs are present in Opera One since 100 build. It's been like two, three (?) months since they released this unfinished product. Maybe Chinese people are pushing them to release things faster? Maybe they fu*ks things up in testing process? Maybe they don't even test on macOS builds? Dunno. They won't tell us.
To Opera development team (especially to QA, Testers and Designers): hope you'll find a way to release a stable product (stable for real, not just by a name).
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@andrew84 I understand you. But wouldn‘t you as a long time Opera User be better off with Vivaldi then? Especially when you’re not using Mac.
I don‘t think they will ever return to pre-One. They were going all-in with these AI-things and layout-changes. Maybe the devs were actually driven by their Chinese overlords to rush out with these versions. Who knows?
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andrew84 last edited by andrew84
@healingcross said in Opera 104.0.4944.33 Stable update:
better off with Vivaldi then?
Currently the UI of Opera (I mean pre-One version) looks better and more clear to me.
Vivaldi has a lot of settings to customize the UI. But even after spending some time to make it similar to Opera, Vivaldi still looks a bit outdated to me. Also, Vivaldi misses features that I actively use daily. Those are search popup, click on tab to scroll to top of the page, sometimes video pop-out). Mentioned features are very old, but still very actual for me.
Almost all the recent features I keep off.
Can't comment how buggy the Vivaldi is because I didn't use it for a long period.*But in future when sites will start to display incorrectly in pre-One version and the One version still will be in a bad state, of course, something will have to be chosen. Vivaldi is the only who has (currently) the normal built-in speed dial start page so maybe it'll be a good choice.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@karen-arzumanyan Small update. This is being analyzed and worked on. Turns out the bug is caused by this change in Chromium. Opera will have to adjust things because of it. No guarantee on when, but at least it's being looked at.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@xb70 On macOS, I think there's an issue with cookies not being migrated properly. On Windows, things seems to be good so far. Of course, no guarantees.
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A Former User last edited by
@leocg I think, that may be a problem for every browser maker that relies on Chromium and isn't Google. AFAIK even Microsoft is still one step behind. Especially when they modify the UI like Opera and Vivaldi do.
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andrew84 last edited by
@burnout426 So the issue is related to this one https://forums.opera.com/post/330740?
Because no cursor for Ctrl+F depends on scale factor in Windows.
Details here https://forums.opera.com/post/327812 -
burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@andrew84 said in Opera 104.0.4944.33 Stable update:
@burnout426 So the issue is related to this one https://forums.opera.com/post/330740?
That mentions other input fields besides the ctrl + f one, so not sure if it's related to that case, but might be.
Because no cursor for Ctrl+F depends on scale factor in Windows.
Details here https://forums.opera.com/post/327812Yes, it's noted in the bug that the cursor issue is at 100% scaling and that at 120% it's fine, but input field borders are cut off.
, that doesn’t sound good for user security.