Opera 101 Stable
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TecHiFi last edited by
I haven't been here for a while, maybe this was previously discussed, but I have a serious issue with this vertical window "frame" that Opera now has. If my mouse slides to the left and I try to scroll the page, it doesn't scroll because the cursor is on this couple of pixels wide frame. But my eyes do scroll, expecting the page to scroll as well, and I got some very unpleasant and weird vertigo-like feeling. Which is absolutely awful. If the top-bar can pick up mouse commands (click the active tab to scroll to the top), I am sure picking up scrolling when the mouse cursor is on that frame is also possible. This is becoming so annoying and physically unpleasant that I am thinking of switching to another browser, at least until it is fixed with some option like "Disable tab bar's top spacing when browser window is maximized", or something similar. I'm pretty sure this isn't just me with this issue.
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thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by@leocg in that case, I'm unsure what you mean by windows, as a window opened from a workspace exists outside that workspace, yet you write about windows within workspaces.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@thelittlebrowserthatcould No, a window opened in one workspace exist only in that workspace, it's very easy to see it..
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stolis last edited by
Changes I dislike the most:
- Tabs bar became higher now, tabs smaller and close button got out. Why? I prefer to see the X all the time.
- Speed Dial tiles (one of the things I love on opera) had already rounded corners and much better look. The new one is just horrible and has been noted by a lot of people in here.
- Everything on the browser is on top. Bookmarks bar, address bar etc. but you send the side bar tools at the bottom and now I have to move the mouse up and down all the time. Brilliant idea, ha?
- "Start page", one of the most useful button on every browser, is gone. For God's shake. That's insane.
As for the rest of the hole bubble design I have nothing more to add on what's already been posted by so many guys in here. Total failure with nothing useful to offer. Please stop ignoring us and bring us back the opera we loved.
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thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by
@leocg I'm sorry, but you claiming that it's very easy to see it gets us nowhere.
We open tabs in workspaces.
We open windows from workspaces (and even those who think they don't use workspaces are using the default one).
Usually Opera starts with one window. If another window is opened it is separate, like opening a text editor or other application. And other applications may have a multi-tabbed interface, or open separate windows.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@thelittlebrowserthatcould Let me try to make it easier:
You open Opera for the first time, no previous session.
You are in tab 1 of window 1 of workspace 1.
You open a new tab
You are in tab 2 of window 1 of workspace 1
You open a new window
You are in tab 1 of window 2 of workspace 1
You click on the other workspace icon in sidebar
You are in tab 1 of window 1 of workspace 2
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@thelittlebrowserthatcould You open tabs in windows and windows in workspaces.
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daunlouded last edited by
This ridiculously big spacing everywhere around icons and stuff is breaking the browsing experience on smaller screens/resolutions. It eats up precious screen space so there is even less vertical space for actual page content. It's not that big deal on QHD monitors but on 14" FHD screen with 150% increased scaling, it has a massive impact as every pixel matters.
I love to see tab grouping coming back but I'd prefer to see the whole page name instead of only a colored bar when it's collapsed and inactive. I currently have two tab islands collapsed with very similar colors (red and is maybe orange) and I already forgot what's inside them. So color alone is not that great when I later need to find specific website.
Also as I'm using Windows 10, this new UI looks completely out of place. We deserve more options for the UI: first named "Default" (which is this current version) and second "Give the old back" (as the name implies, the old look).
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thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by
@leocg said in Opera 101 Stable:
You are in tab 1 of window 2 of workspace 1
Window 2, from whichever tab of whatever workspace it is opened, only has the speed dial tab in each of its workspaces; no inheritance of other tabs. The workspace from which it was opened doesn't own it.
There were early problems, apparently not for all users, of Opera One starting with two windows. Most users don't operate with multiple windows, so it's usual for Opera to start with one window (what most of us think of as the browser). That single window contains whatever tabs we use, in one or more workspaces.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@thelittlebrowserthatcould said:
That single window contains whatever tabs we use, in one or more workspaces.
It contains how many tabs you want and is contained in a workspace.
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thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by
Not necessarily "a" (single) workspace.
I currently use 12 workspaces, and could have 50 tabs in each.
When I open a new window, it also has 12 workspaces, but when the window is first opened each workspace will contain a single tab: the speed dial. Unless it's a private window, for which the speed dial is not displayed in the first (uppermost) workspace.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by leocg
@thelittlebrowserthatcould Necessarily. If you change the workspace then you are not in the same window(s).
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thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by
@leocg I suggest you discuss the matter with employees of the company. Wishing you a pleasant remainder of the day.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@thelittlebrowserthatcould Discuss what exactly? Like I said, I couldn't reproduce the issue with workspaces, they are working as should.
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thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by
@leocg Discuss your understanding of the relationship between Opera's windows and their workspaces.
