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    • burnout426
      burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

      opera://version

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      • burnout426
        burnout426 Volunteer @ralf-brinkmann last edited by

        @ralf-brinkmann

        Make a copy of your "Web data" file in your profile folder (while Opera is closed) and paste it to your desktop for example.

        Install https://sqlitestudio.pl/ and run it.

        Click the "Database" menu.

        Choose "Add a database" and point it to your "Web data" file on your desktop. Since it doesn't have a file extension, you'll want to change the filename filter in the open dialog to "All files" to be able to see and choose the "Web data" file.

        Once the file is loaded in the database list pane on the left, right-click it and choose "connect to the database".

        Then, right-click on the "Keywords" table in the left-hand panel and choose "generate query for table".

        Then, in the right-hand pane for the query tab, click the blue play button to run the query.

        You should then see your custom search engines.

        You can then right-click the "Keywords" table and export it as CSV file.

        Given that, you could can try to play around with a copy of your "Web data" file to export the table to a csv file and then import the table into the "Web data" file for a test standalone installation of Opera Developer to see if you can get your custom search engines imported properly and get them to stick. If so, you can then try it on the real thing (after making a backup).

        Not really sure how to use the program much, so you will probably have to ask and provide details at https://www.reddit.com/r/Database/ to get some help. But, it's something you can try.

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        • MichaIng
          MichaIng @ralf-brinkmann last edited by

          @ralf-brinkmann: That's interesting: This time my custom search engines survived the update, from 109.0.5069 to 109.0.5076. So it probably only affects updates from older versions, maybe some data structure change that is not migrated properly.

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          • burnout426
            burnout426 Volunteer @MichaIng last edited by

            @michaing said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

            maybe some data structure change that is not migrated properly.

            Was wondering that too. Though, between 108.0.5047.0 and 109.0.5076.0, there's just an addition of a color column (after all other columns) for the Keywords table in the latter. Everything else looks the same.

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            • mbstafs
              mbstafs @burnout426 last edited by

              @burnout426: Indeed, it seems the database "Web Data" hosting the custom search engines as well as e.g. the autofill data for your forms (and a lot more) was moved from "$CONFIGDIR/Web Data" to "$CONFIGDIR/Default/Web Data", without migrating the existing data.

              I'm going to try copying the data over. If that doesn't work, I'll try to use an SQlite UI to manually migrate the relevant table data from the one database to the other. I guess that's what your instructions hint at, that a simple copy won't work.

              Thanks for the hints.

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              • MichaIng
                MichaIng @mbstafs last edited by

                @mbstafs Ah right, I was already wondering about the duplicate configs/data in an earlier release. Let us know whether copying data over works, as this seems to be indeed the obvious reason.

                It directory structure looks pretty strange currently, e.g. also some cache dirs are below Default, others not, pretty inconsistent, or I do not understand the logic. And as more and more seems to be moved to Default, I guess we have to expect more breakage, until/unless the migration is done properly on update.

                Probably the aim is to implement some config profile system, and Default is currently the only, and later the default profile.

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                • ralf-brinkmann
                  ralf-brinkmann last edited by

                  Another question:
                  I can no longer find the menu item in the settings where you can enter websites that are allowed to set permanent cookies (with or without third-party cookies). In this case there was no (German) help. There is no “Cookies” menu item under “Privacy and Security”. Not in my old and not in the new developer version.
                  W11x64, Operax64

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                  • MichaIng
                    MichaIng @ralf-brinkmann last edited by

                    @ralf-brinkmann There is a "Drittanbieter-Cookies" menu entry in "Datenschutz und Sicherheit" in my case, the 2nd just below "Browserdaten löschen", to be precise.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @mbstafs last edited by

                      @mbstafs That migration happened a few versions ago when Opera adapted it self to a change in Chromium's profile directory structure.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @ralf-brinkmann last edited by

                        @ralf-brinkmann Seems to be to a Chromium change, since Chrome Developer also doesn't have it.

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                        • ralf-brinkmann
                          ralf-brinkmann @MichaIng last edited by

                          @michaing said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

                          @ralf-brinkmann There is a "Drittanbieter-Cookies" menu entry in "Datenschutz und Sicherheit" in my case, the 2nd just below "Browserdaten löschen", to be precise.

                          Yes, but there is nothing where I can add a new page. Or delete an old one.

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                          • ralf-brinkmann
                            ralf-brinkmann @leocg last edited by

                            @leocg said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

                            @ralf-brinkmann Seems to be to a Chromium change, since Chrome Developer also doesn't have it.

                            And now? The help file is not updated.

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                            • burnout426
                              burnout426 Volunteer @MichaIng last edited by

                              @michaing It was to better match other Chromium browsers. See https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/opera/new_profile_layout/ for more info.

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                              • burnout426
                                burnout426 Volunteer @ralf-brinkmann last edited by burnout426

                                @ralf-brinkmann Due to changes in Chromium. They had to go and mess with things again.

                                At opera://settings/privacy, it looks like you need to goto "Site settings" (opera://settings/content) and then click on "On-device site data" (opera://settings/content/siteData). It won't say the word "Cookie" anywhere there.

                                opera://settings/cookies is now just for 3rd-party cookie handling. The setting can't be changed from the default and stick right now (probably due to the Chromium changes) and needs to be fixed.

                                From: https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/227023954?hl=en&msgid=230723850.

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                                • ralf-brinkmann
                                  ralf-brinkmann @burnout426 last edited by

                                  @burnout426 said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

                                  opera://settings/content/siteData

                                  I don't have a page "opera://settings/content/siteData". If I want to open this link it jumps back to "opera://settings/".

                                  The problem is: If I'm a member of a forum or page, where I have to log in, I don't want to do that every time I restart Opera. All my "old" pages, like the Opera forums, work like before. But now there is a new forum and I can't add this to the pages with permission to store cookies. So I have to type in my user name and password every time after restarting Opera.

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                                  • burnout426
                                    burnout426 Volunteer @ralf-brinkmann last edited by

                                    @ralf-brinkmann said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

                                    I don't have a page

                                    Make sure you're typing siteData as is. It's case-senstiive.

                                    Or, in settings, goto Privacy and Security -> Site Settings -> Additional content settings -> On-device site data.

                                    Or, when you're on the site, click the badge (the lock) at the left of the address field, click "Cookies and site data", click "Manage on-device site data", click the 3 vertical dots next to the site in the dialog, and set it to "Allow to save data". Or, in that dialog, click the "Manage site data" link, which will take you to opera://settings/content/siteData.

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                                    • ralf-brinkmann
                                      ralf-brinkmann @burnout426 last edited by

                                      @burnout426 said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

                                      @ralf-brinkmann said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

                                      I don't have a page

                                      Make sure you're typing siteData as is. It's case-senstiive.

                                      I simply copied your link, therefore there could not have been a typo.

                                      Or, in settings, goto Privacy and Security -> Site Settings -> Additional content settings -> On-device site data.

                                      In German "Datenschutz & Sicherheit" -> "Website-Einstellungen". When I click there, I see an empty page. I have to disable ALL extensions and reload the settings page, then I can see the content of this page. I have never had this before (in older versions).
                                      "Zusätzliche Inhaltseinstellungen" first seems to be empty, but I can click on the little arrow and open it. Why so complicated?
                                      Then the last item there (On-device site data) in German "Websitedaten auf diesem Gerät". I click the arrow but nothing happens. I can not open it (extensions still disabled). The address ist still opera://settings/content.

                                      Or, when you're on the site, click the badge (the lock) at the left of the address field, click "Cookies and site data", click "Manage on-device site data", click the 3 vertical dots next to the site in the dialog, and set it to "Allow to save data".

                                      I think that was the best tipp and worked.

                                      Or, in that dialog, click the "Manage site data" link, which will take you to opera://settings/content/siteData.

                                      It's "opera://settings/content/siteDetails?site=https%3A%2F%2Fnebenan.de" for that page. There is this long liste of permissions (27 items) and I don't know which one is for "Allow to save data".

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                                      • ralf-brinkmann
                                        ralf-brinkmann @ralf-brinkmann last edited by

                                        @burnout426
                                        By the way: I found out, that is has nothing to do with my extensions. The page "Website-Einstellungen"" (opera://settings/content) is always empty when I click it from "Datenschutz & Sicherheit". Once the page is open I have to reload it and then I can see the content.

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                                        • firuz-u7
                                          firuz-u7 last edited by

                                          I remind you once again
                                          Good afternoon Opera developers!
                                          I wanted to clarify whether you are going to correct your mistakes or not?
                                          Firstly: You will fix the browser synchronization server, it is working crookedly, your settings, history, open tabs, none of this works correctly, bookmarks are duplicated after each editing or deleting of a bookmark and launching another PC with synchronization, and extensions have no synchronization at all.
                                          Secondly: In the dark theme, there are flashes of a white screen every time after opening in a new tab or restoring a recently closed tab.
                                          Thirdly: The “Show tab thumbnails on hover” function is not convenient, it covers the entire screen and also has white flashes in the dark theme; in other browsers, a small convenient window appears above the tab that does not cover the useful part of the screen with information.
                                          Correct these irritating features please take note of all this!
                                          I like Opera, I’ve been using it since version 10 on Presto
                                          Here is an example of normal "synchronization"
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                                          Here is an example of normal "Show tab thumbnails on hover"
                                          cfe5485e-a802-4001-8d38-4386670fd33c-image.png
                                          The “extension synchronization” item appeared in synchronization and “Show images on tab hover preview cards” appeared in the settings, I hope the Opera developers heard me and will correct all of the above, for earlier thanks!

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                                          • andrew84
                                            andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by andrew84

                                            @burnout426 said in Opera 109.0.5076.0 developer update:

                                            opera://settings/content/siteData

                                            I can see the page here on Win10x64.

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