Opera 102.0.4871.0 developer update

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer

Starting the talking

andrew84

andrew84

I just don't stop to wonder to all these unnecessary border jumble.
For example when the sidebar is in auto mode.
Sidebar's top/bottom parts look egg shaped, one border looks over another because of the bad shadowing, some curve and 'dirty' rounded corner, still holes when the sidebar panel is opened.
Who designed this, why and what for it was designed in this way??

Screenshot 2023-07-24 152829.png

A Former User

The pip button is back. But the bug on Youtube persists. However, now the volume adjusted in the pip window returns to the tab volume level after about 30 seconds. Previously, this occurred almost instantly.

kman198

kman198

yeah i noticed the annoying video thing pop up just now. They still haven't done anything to fix the cosmetic and ui issues everyone has been complaining about, like the speed dial. i just want issue free browsing with functionality, and not be blinded. that is all.

homarlozoya

homarlozoya

To me all the pop-up video interface works correctly, also solved a problem of black flickering that occurred in the previous version, I would not let me navigate every 5 seconds the opera window went black.

indiqazzz

indiqazzz

Help me to get rid of this annoying start opera logo

multiwebinc

multiwebinc

I actually like the new look. But just please bring back the ability to put my mouse at the edge of the screen to use the scrollbar.

beboss

beboss

Crash on MacOS Sonoma 14, the previews version worked without issues!
2.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7

Translated Report (Full Report Below)

Process:               Opera [756]
Path:                  /Applications/Opera Developer.app/Contents/MacOS/Opera
Identifier:            com.operasoftware.OperaDeveloper
Version:               102.0 (102.0.4871.0)
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        launchd [1]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2023-07-25 20:20:20.3512 +0100
OS Version:            macOS 14.0 (23A5286i)
Report Version:        12
Bridge OS Version:     8.0 (21P50318e)
Anonymous UUID:        6058CD87-0035-D426-5394-03311A947A25


Time Awake Since Boot: 59 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes:       KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x00007ff840fdf9a0
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000002, 0x00007ff840fdf9a0

Termination Reason:    Namespace SIGNAL, Code 10 Bus error: 10
Terminating Process:   exc handler [756]

VM Region Info: 0x7ff840fdf9a0 is in 0x7ff840fdf960-0x7ff841000000;  bytes after start: 64  bytes before end: 132703
      REGION TYPE                    START - END         [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD  REGION DETAIL
      unused __DATA            7ff840fdf958-7ff840fdf960 [     8] r--/rwx SM=COW  ...ed lib __DATA
--->  __DATA_CONST             7ff840fdf960-7ff841000000 [  130K] r--/rwx SM=COW  ...oreFoundation
      __DATA_CONST             7ff841000000-7ff841271130 [ 2500K] r--/rw- SM=COW  ...oreFoundation

Thread 0 Crashed::  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   Opera Framework               	       0x1209b40ff 0x11f2a8000 + 24166655
1   Opera Framework               	       0x1209340b9 0x11f2a8000 + 23642297
2   Opera Framework               	       0x122606d7b ChromeMain + 795
3   Opera                         	       0x1094fa24d 0x1094f5000 + 21069
4   dyld                          	    0x7ff80105c3a6 start + 1942

Thread 1:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	    0x7ff8013e0b88 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 2:
0   Opera Framework               	       0x120570d20 0x11f2a8000 + 19696928
1   Opera Framework               	       0x11fcae113 0x11f2a8000 + 10510611
2   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	    0x7ff8013e5202 _pthread_start + 99
3   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	    0x7ff8013e0bab thread_start + 15


Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
  rax: 0x00007ff840fdf960  rbx: 0x000000010954e000  rcx: 0x00000001258f5f00  rdx: 0x0000000000001000
  rdi: 0x0000000000000203  rsi: 0x000000010954e000  rbp: 0x00007ff7b6a0a3f0  rsp: 0x00007ff7b6a0a250
   r8: 0x0000000000000001   r9: 0x0000080300000000  r10: 0x0000000000000000  r11: 0x0000000000000246
  r12: 0x00007ff844867f88  r13: 0x00007ff7b6a0a638  r14: 0x0000000000000001  r15: 0x0000000000000001
  rip: 0x00000001209b40ff  rfl: 0x0000000000010206  cr2: 0x00007ff840fdf9a0
  
Logical CPU:     0
Error Code:      0x00000007 (invalid protections for user data write)
Trap Number:     14

Thread 0 instruction stream:
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  ff ff e9 01 01 00 00 41-89 c7 bf 02 00 00 00 e8  .......A........
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  1d f4 04 48 89 48 40 48-8b 05 9b cb 1a 09 48 8b  ...H.H@H......H.
  00 48 83 f8 e8 0f 84 cc-00 00 00 48 8b 48 40 48  .H.........H.H@H
  89 0d 0b 63 a7 09 48 85-c9 0f 84 bb 00 00 00 48  ...c..H........H

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               0x0 - 0xffffffffffffffff ??? (*) <00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000> ???
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External Modification Summary:
  Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
    task_for_pid: 0
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0
  Calls made by this process:
    task_for_pid: 0
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0
  Calls made by all processes on this machine:
    task_for_pid: 0
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0

VM Region Summary:
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Writable regions: Total=170.4M written=0K(0%) resident=0K(0%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=170.4M(100%)

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===========                     =======  ======= 
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dyld private memory                260K        2 
mapped file                         60K        1 
shared memory                       48K        4 
===========                     =======  ======= 
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burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer @beboss

@beboss What does Opera say for a crash ID at the URL opera://crashes?

Are you able to reproduce the crash?

A Former User This post is deleted!

beboss

beboss @burnout426

@burnout426 I literally cannot start the browser. It crashes at the start.

edit: actually here is the last part of the report which maybe is the helpful one:

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Full Report
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burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer @beboss

@beboss What happens if you rename your profile folder at /users/yourusername/library/application support/com.operasoftware.OperaDeveloper (or wherever it's located). Will Opera then start with the fresh profile?

beboss

beboss @burnout426

@burnout426 Haven't tried. I don't plan to mess up my settings/profile and etc... Will download the previous version and hopefully will start.

beboss

beboss @beboss

@beboss Ahhh same cra*p installed the previous one and crashes again. Very disturbing... I hope i can

rijndael9

rijndael9 @beboss

Thanks @beboss for noticing. We can confirm this problem with Beta Sonoma. Reported as DNA-110279

ralf-brinkmann

ralf-brinkmann

I still have the problem that Opera updates itself to a newer version on startup on my Windows 11 Notebook (x64), even though Opera is installed as a standalone version and I always use Opera with the parameter "--disable- start update".

There are also no remnants of any old, "normal" installation on my computer. I recently uninstalled and deleted everything that looked a bit like Opera and copied the standalone version over from scratch from my Windows 10 machine (I don't have this problem there).

It also annoys me that Opera creates a button on the taskbar every time this update is made. I. Don't. Want. That! On my computer, I am the Master of Universe and I decide what can and cannot be done there.

W10/11x64, Operax64

andrew84

andrew84

@ralf-brinkmann said in Opera 102.0.4871.0 developer update:

"--disable- start update"

Where did you get this parameter?
I use simply --disable-update in shortcut + rename/delete opera_autoupdate.exe

more info in the separate topic https://forums.opera.com/post/188248

ralf-brinkmann

ralf-brinkmann @andrew84

@andrew84
That was a long time ago here in the forum. And Opera tells me completely correctly; Checking for updates is disabled.

But ok, I'll try your version too.

ralf-brinkmann

ralf-brinkmann

In recent years, closing the last tab has always caused the browser or the entire browser window to be closed (in my case a private window). This no longer works for me. Has there been any setting changed? I can't find anything to restore the previous behavior.
W10x64, Operax64

ralf-brinkmann

ralf-brinkmann @andrew84

@andrew84 said in Opera 102.0.4871.0 developer update:

I use simply --disable-update in shortcut

By the way: I just saw, that I use the same parameter. I don't know what I copied last time when I wrote my posting.