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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer @Lenmaer last edited by

        @lenmaer Not possible to change the buttons position.

        If you add some workspaces, it will look more like the old sidebar.

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        • Lenmaer
          Lenmaer @leocg last edited by

          @leocg But they weren't at the bottom before the update.
          Also I must say that Opera One is harder to use for people with poor vision.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer @Lenmaer last edited by

            @lenmaer Yes, Opera One has a new UI and sections in sidebar are, now, more distinguishable.

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            • vishchun
              vishchun last edited by

              Not bad at all, but I don't see the point of this blocky design. If the location of the blocks cannot be changed, then this is purely visual overload.
              On a large monitor it looks acceptable. On a laptop it's terrible.
              Aria AI is great. The sidebar is now more organized.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User @Opera Comments Bot last edited by A Former User

                Gotta love the bubbles. Big bubbles, no troubles. 🐼

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @vishchun last edited by

                  @vishchun said:

                  If the location of the blocks cannot be changed, then this is purely visual overload

                  From the post:

                  Our new Modular Design is our roadmap to building a browser that molds itself to your needs. Opera One focuses on bringing key features forward and adjusting them based on your context, delivering a fluid and easy browsing experience.

                  I think that in the future it will be possible to change the position of the "modules".

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                  • blob1111
                    blob1111 last edited by

                    The redesign in Opera One looks good but needs major work to improve its UX.

                    Biggest issue: the border around the webpage - worst UI decision I've ever seen in a desktop browser

                    I'm using a very standard setup (one 24 inch 1080p screen) and there's a 4px border around the web page. That means 8px of screen real estate wasted horizontally and 8px vertically. With a maximized window, the loss of space is noticeable compared to all other browsers and the screen feels smaller for no good reason. When the browser window is not maximized (ie. smaller window), it's even more obvious. And when you have multiple browser windows visible on your screen or pop ups open those borders are everywhere. The new rounded corners steal even more screen space.

                    Scrollbar usability killed

                    This has been mentioned by many other people, you can't reach the scrollbar anymore by dragging your mouse cursor to the right of the screen and just clicking. Also, the rounded corners cover part of the up/down buttons making it harder to click on them.

                    Then there are many minor issues. Here are some:

                    No hamburger icon in the standard location (rightmost position of the navigation bar)

                    There's a reason all other browsers have the hamburger icon there, it's an easy location to find visually and reach with the mouse. Opera 100 puts an icon here that most people won't find useful (extensions).

                    When lots of tabs are open (using the full width of the tab area), the active one gets resized

                    Again something that looks good but affects usability when you're switching between tabs with the mouse. All other modern browsers don't have this issue.

                    Big gap (8px in my screen) above the tabs

                    In Opera One, when you have a maximized window you can drag the mouse pointer to the very top of the screen and click on a tab (which is good). However the gap is so large that it's not intuitive to assume that a click on the gap will trigger a click on the corresponding tab.

                    Other browsers deal with this by making the tabs reach the top of the screen or they use a tiny margin, certainly not 8px.

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                    • mryanmarkryan2
                      mryanmarkryan2 last edited by

                      I rather like it 🙂 It feels more organized and the look is clean.

                      Have you fscked your local propeller head today?

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                      • JoannaCzajka
                        JoannaCzajka Opera @mryanmarkryan2 last edited by

                        @mryanmarkryan2 That's great to hear!

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                        • Frederikathias
                          Frederikathias last edited by

                          Hello,
                          I update opera stable to this version (via the browser) yesterday. Relaunched, update installed, all works fine.
                          Today I start opera : all my opened tabs in all sessions are gone. Is this linked to the update ? Is there a way to get them back ?

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                          • alexs
                            alexs last edited by

                            Linux: No native possibility to set the UI language in the settings. Why? Every other browser can do that on Linux...
                            Linux: Opera does not remember the window size and position after restart.

                            Please first fix the bugs, then tinker on the UI design.

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                            • JoannaCzajka
                              JoannaCzajka Opera @Frederikathias last edited by

                              @frederikathias Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Sorry to hear that your tabs have gone. Can you share more details? Windows or Mac or Linux?

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                              • Frederikathias
                                Frederikathias @JoannaCzajka last edited by

                                @joannaczajka Hello,
                                It's on a windows 10 machine.
                                Since yesterday I had the occasion to try the same on another windows 10 computer (did a backup of the files in case). But there I don't seem to have an issue, tabs are there after closing / reopening opera 100 (haven't tried to restart the computer yet).
                                On the machine with the tabs gone it seemed like the "sessions" (Following the profil path) folder was completely gone.
                                Now it's working but I imagine it would be difficult to retrieve my lost tabs ?

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                                • mryanmarkryan2
                                  mryanmarkryan2 @Frederikathias last edited by

                                  @frederikathias I think i encountered this. I thought at the time I closed my session with multiple tabs in different workspaces when I still had another session (instance of opera) that was still open but didn't have those tabs opened. When I closed the last session, it remembers that setup.

                                  Have you fscked your local propeller head today?

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                                  • mryanmarkryan2
                                    mryanmarkryan2 @mryanmarkryan2 last edited by

                                    @mryanmarkryan2 yeah so confirmed. To reproduce, open opera. Setup some tabs in various workspaces. Then open a new instance of opera. You should be able to alt-tab between them. Open a tab in instance 2. Now close instance 1, then close instance 2. Re-open opera. You will see only instance 2.

                                    I think the workspaces are kind of limited in concept. I would have focused on Speed dial getting new functionality as far as saving tabs for the workspace. For example, the first row of speed dial (or a side row) would match the workspace. Close the session and the tabs for the workspace are saved there. Right-click and restore to restore them if they are not there. Speed dials are permanent, but tabs are not. I see plenty of flaws in my quick idea here, but that's the general idea. Basically, workspaces need to work correctly with other opera features.

                                    Have you fscked your local propeller head today?

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                                    • AlizaNaomi
                                      AlizaNaomi last edited by

                                      im not a fan of the UI, i miss having no large gap in sidebar is there anyway to just shift up the chat integrations (whatsapp, messenger twitter like the old version? (on mac)
                                      also why cant we change order of these icons? the sidebar also feels more bulky and i dont like the border around the browser tab with round edges, it looks clumsy is there way we can disable this feature?

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                                      • ravasik
                                        ravasik last edited by

                                        Good work, i like this design more, however I have problems with My Flow in this version - it always ends up with an error when trying to connect to a phone 😞

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                                        • Generosus
                                          Generosus last edited by

                                          Goodness gracious. Please accept this as constructive feedback. Opera One is a mess. Who made the decision to make such radical changes to Opera? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Respectfully, you guys have "bud-lighted" Opera. After 12+ years of using Opera, we've decided to part ways with it and, instead, use Brave. It's fast, simple, secure, and adaptable. What a shame. Best wishes, Team Opera.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User @Generosus last edited by

                                            @generosus It's the way like everything in the world that changes, you have to get used to it. I had used Opera even before you and I admit, that I'm really glad that it doesn't look like 2002 anymore.
                                            I was glad with the former design, but the longer I use to new one, I am getting used to it. Just same but different, as in any other kind of process and progress. But I get the point.

                                            I'd rather shook my head that you were going to Brave. Really? To me it's nothing like a Chrome clone with hardcore adblocking. But designwise there isn't much to like there. Ok, it's easy because there are no features but the purple color-theme is a schock to the eye.
                                            Would Vivaldi not be the more natural alternative for you?

                                            But that's only my personal two pence about it. Just see it as a constructive feedback.

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