Opera 73 beta

[A Former User]

A Former User @kened last edited by

@kened Let me be myself for a while.

"I’m happy to inform you that Opera 73 changelog has just entered the" alpha "stage".

[kened]

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@pavelopdev:

[kened]

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@pavelopdev: It have been difficult days.

[elspivo]

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It's possible for you guys to add a notification icon for instagram and twitter like messenger have?

[thelittlebrowserthatcould]

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DNA-88708 [Snap] Improper area snapped -- if that's the Snapshot (abbreviations like BABE waste a lot of my time, when searching the Web!), then it's still shifted leftwards here.

[A Former User]

A Former User @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by

@thelittlebrowserthatcould

Snapshot makes screenshots with left shift

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by

@thelittlebrowserthatcould It's probably a different issue.

[thelittlebrowserthatcould]

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@pavelopdev: Cheers, I checked the Snapshot today on the Changelog page, with its nice column of bullet points.

[thelittlebrowserthatcould]

thelittlebrowserthatcould @elspivo last edited by

@elspivo: More "sore thumbs" competing for attention? Personally, I'd like more Workspace icons (and more Workspaces).

[kened]

kened Banned @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by

@thelittlebrowserthatcould: Most of these features are optional, so you have nothing to worry about. I prefer to have options to choose from than not being able to choose.
As for workspaces, in the developer version, it is already possible to add more than five, up to the limit equivalent to the number of icons.

[elspivo]

elspivo @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by elspivo

@thelittlebrowserthatcould: I'm not this kind of person - but I like to have option like that - when doing other stuff It'll be nice and comfort to see responses etc. You want more workspace icons, I want notification icon - why not both? Hopeful Opera team will do those things. Good day for you!

[kened]

kened Banned @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by

@thelittlebrowserthatcould Look at that. If it weren't for the Opera menu and the snapshot tool, I might think I would be looking at Google Chrome.

[chas4]

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Restart to update from 72.0.3815.133 shows about 10 seconds before it is ready to update

Why Open the Web?

Despite the connecting purpose of the Web, it is not entirely open to all of its users.
When used correctly, HTML documents can be displayed across platforms and devices.
However, many devices are excluded access to Web content.

[andrew84]

andrew84 last edited by andrew84

As there are no response I repeat my responses (https://forums.opera.com/post/231592 https://forums.opera.com/post/231594) to this post https://forums.opera.com/post/231588 in this Beta too.

DNA-88977 - The change only affects Babe feature

Wrong, because:

1. It doesn't work on the BABE too (do you see the icon and title on the BABE after closing a window? I don't).
2. In 73.0.3827.0 it worked for both Search Tabs and BABE popups (1st picture is SearchTabs popup, the 2nd one is the BABE. SearchTabs popup just didn't have the 'windows' icon and the title 'Window with x tabs' was hardly readable in dark mode. Reported a month ago https://forums.opera.com/post/226571)
   

It's intended behaviour. The same happens if you change context ( Open A new Tab, open another Tab, open OMenu etc.)

I'll explain using screenshots. For example a speed dial tab (or any other tab) is active now. If I close the active tab in SearchTabs popup, then popup closes (this is an incorrect behavior and there's wasn't such behavior in previous TabMenu .

Also intended behaviour. If monitor width is too small, only columns with the highest priority visible. You can notice the similar behavior in restore mode also.

Also wrong. I use 1920x1080 22' monitor too and when I set page zoom in Settings to 125% (I use it as default page zoom), then content of the BABE increases too and as a result columns and items are cut!
.
Also, if you unable to fit all the content on 1366x768 display (100% page zoom), then horizontal scroll should appear (https://forums.opera.com/post/226149).
And don't forget about the weird looking recently closed items sometimes. What'are these lines and dots? So there's definitely smth. wrong with the BABE's layout, but most probably it will be promoted to Stable. I'm reporting about it during 3 months already.

Please, confirm.

[A Former User]

A Former User @thelittlebrowserthatcould last edited by A Former User

@thelittlebrowserthatcould Snapshot works badly in both Operas - Beta and Dev.

I explained the Snapshot bugs (yes, plural) using Snapshot edit functions.

[Fig. 1] Screenshot from Twitter

[Fig. 2] New type of bugs
https://yadi.sk/i/OVQED7Q8KGEldQ

[Fig. 3] Another type of bugs
https://yadi.sk/i/uvGdWL-peCxZTw

All the the bugs are present both in Opera Beta and Opera Dev.

Thus Opera is not a good candidate for real, serious work when screenshots are important (badly necessary), like here - commenting Opera bugs.

On the other hand If the bugs were not present I'd not to have use the Snapshot. Sorta "socialism" - the best for resolving problems which created itself.

[A Former User]

A Former User @andrew84 last edited by

@andrew84 Oh, well, a lot of to confirm. Concerning bugs of Opera Dev here, but I am afraid the same .... (bugs) are well anchored in Beta
too.

1. Search Tabs - confirmed, it closes after removing active Tab.
2. BABE idiosyncrasies - confirmed in Opera Dev.
   I do not use BABE, I had to switch on.
   @andrew84 you're damn right in remarks.

[Fig. 1] Confirmation screenshot. Monitor CRT 1600x1200.

You may examine small series of screenshots showing how BABE behave from small window (start with my two window layout I work with 24/7) thru "broader", up to the full size 1600x1200. Not soothing experience.

[Fig. 2] > https://yadi.sk/i/rSRgAGQxCY4tmA

[Fig. 3] -> https://yadi.sk/i/pPCUwoV0FlqhGQ

[Fig. 4] --> https://yadi.sk/i/pPCUwoV0FlqhGQ

[Fig. 5] ---> https://yadi.sk/i/e_Ob7V2CnXz-Iw

[A Former User]

A Former User @Guest last edited by

@pavelopdev For users and programmers interested in this topic and who would like to correct the Snapshot, here are hyperlinks to screenshots showing original sites selected by Snapshot. "->" means "(had) led to".

[Fig. 4] https://yadi.sk/i/osv7HZrFIHiB6A -> [Fig. 2]

[Fig. 5] https://yadi.sk/i/A81slVQWl6t4AQ -> [Fig. 3]

[A Former User]

A Former User @Guest last edited by A Former User

@pavelopdev Correction of
"@andrew84 Oh, well, a lot of to confirm. Concerning bugs of Opera Dev here, but I am afraid the same .... (bugs) are well anchored in Beta
too. (...)" where I placed [Fig. 1], [Fig. 2], [Fig. 3], [Fig. 4]. [Fig. 5].

Instead of
[Fig. 4] --> https://yadi.sk/i/pPCUwoV0FlqhGQ

it should be
[Fig. 4] --> https://yadi.sk/i/RH4b6q3cmWYFfg

(Damn it, I overlooked the duplication from Fig. 3.)

[andrew84]

andrew84 @Guest last edited by andrew84

@pavelopdev: Thanks for the confirmations (I had doubts about the ugly/weird 'recently closed items').

(bugs)are well anchored in Beta

Sure. I'm reporting about the BABE's layout/zooming issues regularly since July (since 71 Developer version https://forums.opera.com/post/219228)! A zero reaction.
I'm sure on 99% that the broken BABE will be promoted to Stable soon.

[pepe2]

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Hi developers. Fix "Force Dark Mode for Web Contents" please.