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    • treego
      treego @leocg last edited by

      @leocg said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

      @alexs And you do that often enough to justify having the list of closed tabs that close?

      If he/she took the time to post about it here, it is quite obvious that he/she thinks that list is important ... can we be nice?

      When people express their opinion about Instant Search being removed and the Tabs Menu being removed and how much they miss it, it is something that is significant to them. Otherwise, they would not bother posting here.

      Pressing people as though such removals of features should not be important to them at all is counter-friendly and hardly helps Opera's image here in Opera Forums.

      That's my 2 cents ... carry on! 🙂

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

        @andrew84 I'm asking now because just now I became curious about why people need to keep reopening tabs closed a "long time ago". And, as it seems, so often to justify having a menu with the list of closed tabs at one click of distance.

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

          @andrew84 Most probably there were people asking for such feature back on the time when it was implemented. And also most probably very few people were (still) using it to justify keeping the feature.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User @leocg last edited by

            @leocg useful [ yoos-fuhl ] adjective

            • being of use or service; serving some purpose; advantageous, helpful, or of good effect.

            Users will feel that browser functions have various degrees of usefulness.

            For me, on a scale of one to ten: Having tabs is a 10, video pop-out a 0 and easy access to recently closed tabs a 6.2.

            When you wonder “why” next time, try applying Occam's razor principle:

            The user probably finds that thing useful.

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer @treego last edited by

              @treego I undestarnd that it's something important for the person, I'm just trying to find out why. For me, having a list of recently close tabs - and not all closed tabs - may be useful but I don't see a reason for having it in a one click menu.

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              • zdenekvecera
                zdenekvecera @alexs last edited by

                @alexs: Thanks, thanks, thanks!

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                • treego
                  treego @leocg last edited by

                  @leocg said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

                  @treego I undestarnd that it's something important for the person, I'm just trying to find out why. For me, having a list of recently close tabs - and not all closed tabs - may be useful but I don't see a reason for having it in a one click menu.

                  OK, that's fine ... your replies sometimes seem curt and unwilling to see the poster's point of view as being valid.

                  If Opera had the feature in the first place, Opera must have had a reason for it.

                  It would be nice if Opera would explain why they are removing features that others have found helpful and useful, sometimes.

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                  • zdenekvecera
                    zdenekvecera @Guest last edited by

                    @ab-garcez: https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2020/04/opera-68-is-here-with-built-in-instagram-in-the-sidebar/#comment-207418

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                    • sgrandin
                      sgrandin @alexs last edited by

                      @alexs It seems such an integral element functionally, I wonder why it's not in the main settings menu.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User @leocg last edited by

                        @leocg we still don't have any answer about removing Instant Search. Why? It's such a great feature.

                        The worst part is this Search in Tabs "new" feature, which was also present in Instant Search, but I never used it. I really miss Googling with CTRL+SPACE instead opening a new tab like a cave man.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @treego last edited by

                          @treego Usually features are removed because they are not being used by a signicant number of people to justify keeping it. See https://forums.opera.com/post/207332

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                          • andrew84
                            andrew84 @leocg last edited by

                            @leocg I don't agree that 'very few'. I saw enough complaints on forum in dedicated topic and there are enough complaints in the topics regarding the blog (I'd say 15-20 complaints from different users in total). And you can see pretty much complaints here right now.
                            You don't ask why 'snapshot' option is activated by one click and integrated into the address bar (you probably use it every hour at least then)

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                              @ab-garcez Here is an answer: https://forums.opera.com/post/207332

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                              • andrew84
                                andrew84 @Guest last edited by

                                @ab-garcez said in Opera 68 is here with built-in Instagram in the sidebar:

                                Search in Tabs "new" feature, which was also present in Instant Search

                                Yes, I wonder too. Instead of 3 features we have 1 now and the most useless I should say. I never used "Instant Search" but I don't mind keeping it for those users who find it useful. Moreover, the Instant Search was switchable off.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                                  @andrew84 See https://forums.opera.com/post/207332

                                  Usually what happens, according to my experience of more that twenty years uisng and following Opera's development is:

                                  • A new feature is added
                                  • People complain abou that feature
                                  • (After a long time) The feature is renoved
                                  • People complain that the feature was removed
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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                    @ab-garcez Not sure if it's already in 68, but Search in Tabs now allows you to search in page content. It may be useful for those with lots of tabs opened to find out a specific one.

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User @leocg last edited by

                                      @leocg thanks. I replied the dev about it. Let's hope they consider making it back.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User @leocg last edited by

                                        @leocg it's not, but I have no use for it. I only (really) miss Googling without opening a new tab.

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                                        • andrew84
                                          andrew84 @leocg last edited by andrew84

                                          @leocg
                                          If the new feature is switchable off, there can't be complaints.
                                          I do not use the 'Instant Search' so I switched it off and I don't complain, I also don't mind if someone likes it.

                                          'Search in Tabs' is not a new feature. This is an old feature that was part of another feature previously. So they could just remove the 'web' part from 'Instant Search' and call it 'Search in tabs'.

                                          Regarding the provided forum's link.
                                          I don't know how they do gather their statistics (what kind of telemetry), but let's say that 'Instant Search' was not popular. But I do not understand how does the TabMenu refer here then?
                                          Unpopularity of Instant Search means that the TabMenu was also not popular?

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                                            @andrew84 It would be a perfect scenario but, in the real world, this is not how things work. Simply there can't be options for everything, everytime.

                                            Regarding the link, it tells the (main) reason for a feature to be removed. Just change Instant Search for any other.

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