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    • andrew84
      andrew84 @burnout426 last edited by

      @burnout426 There's a difference also if I hover the cursor over the tab or mute it, I forgot to mention. So, I'm not sure how big is the difference, it seems that the animation always shows the full speed, but when muted the cpu speed varies (but I see the full speed not so often with muted tab in contrast to the active equalizer)

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      • andrew84
        andrew84 @andrew84 last edited by andrew84

        @andrew84 I have similar results on Ytube with 720p (not 60fps) video. So maybe I can't confirm the issue on these 2 sites. I don't know.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

          @burnout426 on the site ok.ru when playing music:

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          on the website ok.ru when playing music and when you hover the mouse cursor over the tab:

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          on the website ok.ru while the video is playing:

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          on the site ok.ru when playing a video and hovering over a tab:

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          on the site vk.com when playing music:

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          on the website vk.com when playing music and when you hover the mouse cursor over the tab:

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          on the website vk.com while the video is playing:

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          on the site vk.com when playing a video and hovering over a tab:

          d62c339f-911c-4cbc-b950-667e1bc1d4a6-image.png

          But the CPU load is not so bad. The video on the website vk.com and ok.ru started hanging and slow down . And if I hover my mouse over a tab of these sites, then the video starts to play well.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User @Guest last edited by

            @temkem said in Opera 66.0.3515.2 developer update:

            The video on the website vk.com and ok.ru started hanging and slow down

            Are you sure this is Opera's problem? As soon as you open the video on vk.com and ok.ru, buffering begins, which can cause hangs and slowdowns within seconds.
            For me personally, the fix "DNA-82626 [Win] High CPU usage due to media indicator animation" solved the video problem, I don't see much difference with Сhrome now.

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            • A Former User
              A Former User @Guest last edited by

              @johnd78 said in Opera 66.0.3515.2 developer update:

              Are you sure this is Opera's problem? As soon as you open the video on vk.com and ok.ru, buffering begins, which can cause hangs and slowdowns within seconds

              Yes, I'm sure, since I can see that the buffering has already passed.
              And when you hover over a tab vk.com or ok.ru the video starts playing normally.
              on stable Opera 65.0.3467.48 there is no such problem on the site vk.com

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              • A Former User
                A Former User @Guest last edited by

                @temkem I checked again in Opera Developer 66.0.3515.2 and in Opera Bera 66.0.3515.3, I have no problem. It’s strange.

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                • bushido12
                  bushido12 @Guest last edited by

                  @johnd78 @temkem Dear fellows in front of the screen,

                  There is nothing strange about having different hardware and software. 🙂

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    @burnout426 , @johnd78
                    I turned off the opera://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decode flag and the videos on these sites began to work normally.
                    But why isn't there such a problem on stable Opera and no problem on the Vivaldi browser?

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                    • burnout426
                      burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                      @temkem Not sure. Guess there could be a change in Chromium that caused the difference. I guess you could compare opera://gpu between stable and developer to see if there are any differences. Also, with Vivaldi, I'm assuming you tried the snapshot and not stable. Vivaldi is often behind in Chromium, so you want the latest snapshot to at least get a build with a newer Chromium.

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                      • burnout426
                        burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                        @andrew84 Does the issue go away for you too when opera://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decode is enabled?

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                          @burnout426 opera://gpu/
                          the difference between the stable version and Opera Developer is that Developer includes
                          Viz Hit-test Surface Layer

                          @burnout426 said in Opera 66.0.3515.2 developer update:

                          Also, with Vivaldi, I'm assuming you tried the snapshot and not stable. Vivaldi is often behind in Chromium, so you want the latest snapshot to at least get a build with a newer Chromium.

                          Have Vivaldi Snapshot 2.9.1735.3 version of Chromium(79.0.3945.45) higher than have Opera Developer and Opera Beta, but have Vivaldi there is no such problems and have him, too, included Viz Hit-test Surface Layer and all same sections that and have Opera Developer and Beta

                          @burnout426 said in Opera 66.0.3515.2 developer update:

                          @andrew84 Does the issue go away for you too when opera://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decode is enabled?

                          yes

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                          • burnout426
                            burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                            @temkem said in Opera 66.0.3515.2 developer update:

                            Viz Hit-test Surface Layer

                            I guess you could disable opera://flags/#enable-viz-hit-test-surface-layer just to see if it makes a differencer for Opera. I guess you could also try disabling chrome://flags/#video-pop-out-surface-layers so Opera Developer doesn't use Chromium's new pop-out feature. Even if you're not using the video pop-out, maybe there's an issue with it behind the scenes. Just a wild guess though.

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User @burnout426 last edited by A Former User

                              @burnout426 no, it doesn't help. Especially on Opera Beta by default disabled flag: opera://flags/#video-pop-out-surface-layers
                              and there is this problem too.

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                              • andrew84
                                andrew84 last edited by

                                @burnout426 said in Opera 66.0.3515.2 developer update:

                                Does the issue go away for you too when opera://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decode is enabled?

                                I don't want to confuse you, but here with this flag disabled I have the same behavior. But I mean only the higher CPU load, I had no problems with hanging video on ok.ru previously too.
                                And regarding the CPU load, I have similar behavior with both YouTube and ok.ru videos (720p not 60fps).
                                *I can add that I'm using O58 currently, and the same YTube video (720p) consumes less resources in overall in 58version than in the last Dev version (with active equalizrer, antivirus is off), but in 58 there's also the cpu load become less when tab is hovered by the cursor. When I turn the antivirus on and put higher quality (1080+) it's already hard to say.

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                                • andrew84
                                  andrew84 @andrew84 last edited by andrew84

                                  @burnout426 Edit: Sorry, I misread. I thought you mean to disable the flag because here that flag was enabled by default (so I tried with disabled after your post).
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                                  • zalex108
                                    zalex108 @burnout426 last edited by

                                    @burnout426 said in Opera 66.0.3515.2 developer update:

                                    @zalex108 and @temkem, could you provide list of URLs where there's still high cpu uage when playing media?

                                    OS details too please.

                                    Any site.
                                    W7 x64 - Updated

                                    --
                                    Muting fixes the problem.

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                                    Thank you.

                                    "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". · Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                                    • burnout426
                                      burnout426 Volunteer @andrew84 last edited by

                                      @andrew84 My fault on that. I was going by the name of the flag and not its description. I meant to turn off "Hardware-accelerated video decode where available".

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                                      • ysnrmzn
                                        ysnrmzn last edited by

                                        suggestion I really like bookmarks and history in the sidebar panel. How about downloads in the sidebar panel, too?

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                                        • modemjunkie
                                          modemjunkie last edited by

                                          I still keep praying for an intermediate theme. No matter how I adjust the brightness or contrast on my monitors, I can't distinguish the active tab from others when using the dark theme, and light is too bright for most purposes.

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                                          • modemjunkie
                                            modemjunkie last edited by

                                            In recent builds, the google search field does not allow me to edit my search. I can type in a change but clicking on the search icon or hitting enter does nothing on my Win7 desktop. Is this Developer specific or something google has done.

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