Posts made by ericartman92

@andrew84 said in [Solved]Bring back the "Recently closed" button on the top bar on the right:

'solved' in this particular case would be actual if they'd really brought the
recently closed tabs' back or if there was an opportunity to switch it off with the help of corresponding flag.
*Or the name of topic should be different, 'TabMenu alternative' for example, then every extension from the store that undo closed tabs will look as a 'solved'.

Don't bother, there's no one to talk to. The absence of the feature is one thing, but a moderator that basically taunts people is a whole other level.

@leocg said in [Solved]Bring back the "Recently closed" button on the top bar on the right:

@ericartman92 Yes, there is a solution, no matter if you like it or not.

It's not a matter not my opinion of it. I think there is no solution yet.

@leocg and there's no solution. We can go back and forth on your definition of solution but this case is simple - a confirmation or any response in any form that the feature is or is not in the plan. You stated soooo many times that you're not employed by opera, but somehow you close threads as if you either know more or just don't like them.

And by the way, a separate big thanks to the mod that marked it as Solved, and made a miserable attempt to reason why. There is no solution. You closed the other thread, probably because at it was such an eyesore on an official forum as many people posted their dislike and said they're switching to other browsers. And then you essentially take down this thread as well. This is a thread literally asking for a feature. That feature, in its requested form, is not in the application. How come this is "Solved"? Judging by your logic that even though there's no direct solution, but there's something that no one in the thread wants, I suggest you remove the "feature request" part of the forum completely as it's just not making any sense to ask for things and then get different answers marked as "Solved". Bravo opera.

@mentallymental we all mentioned that it's only a temporary solution. This was discussed in much greater detail in another topic, but our kind moderators have closed it for some reason that they tried to explain, bit it's still not clear to me.
As of now, there's no flag, there's won't ever be a flag, nor will there ever be the same "recently closed" functionality in opera. You can adjust to the sorry substitution that opera have instead, or switch to using some other browser. If you choose option two, the only one that I am aware of is Vivaldi, because it has the exact same feature that got removed from opera.

@primoz I agree with you. I don't think typing is faster or better or more accurate.
In case of the accidentally closed tab, mouse is definitely faster.
In case if it's random characters or the page caption is in a different language, I don't even have that language on my keyboard layout, so I can't type that.

@leocg And the other thread with many more opinions and viable options for people was what exactly if not a place to discuss the feature?

Isn't it nice that the following words are on the Opera for windows main page:
"Capable
The most useful and requested features are already built into the Opera browser."

How ironic that the most requested feature is now taken out and the moderator has locked the discussion on that thread.....

@duulket said in Where is the "Recently closed tabs/Tab menu" button on the top right?:

@azrael78 I'm an adult and can admit my mistakes. I just try to show that you already have that feature. It just moved to another place. And you can use it in a new way. Or you can continue to moan. It's your choice.

The "same feature, but in a different place and in a different form" is, by definition, not the same feature.
We are all very happy that the new feature suits you well. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for us as we want it to.

@airforce25228 said in Where is the "Recently closed tabs/Tab menu" button on the top right?:

@ericartman92 When some developer really do something for users then its by accident not by porpouse. And it doesnt matter who deside what will change and what not if you call them developers, stackholder, designers whatever... if users complain about somethig then "developers" should at least listen and make some statement about it!
Also in this case its make no sence because no one want that serch useless feature and all want that recently closed tabs button. Its essencial Operas feature from the very beginning and there is no reason to change or delete it. Also no one wanted that!
You "developers" just dont listen to users and just dont know what word "NO" mean. You have some brain issue about that "NO" world or something. I wonder if you (now I mean specifically you) as developer ever change/revert something just because users say they didnt like it. And by this I mean you change it back just how it was.

I cannot say for absolutely every single developer, but believe me, we do listen and it's one of the things that really can make your day, or break it. Don't forget that for the most, the software that we're making is just as close as a hand-built house is to someone who built it. The difference is that the majority of work is done for a comparatively specific target audience or consumers, whereas software is often presented to anyone willing to try and it really is impossible to please everyone.
Nevertheless, I still maintain that the decision to remove this feature is moronic to say the least, however I don't appreciate your accusatory tone and the generalisations, especially the "brain issue" part. Please stay civil.
And no, I don't revert stuff just for the fun of it, but there are people that can tell you to do so even if it's idiotic and one has to oblige.

@airforce25228 said in Where is the "Recently closed tabs/Tab menu" button on the top right?:

@ericartman92 Talking to any software developers is wasting of time because (even if they listen) they are not willing to do any changes that are good for users. Only exception developers will listen to are big companies which are willing to pay enormous amount of money to developers for that so no money = shut up and use our product!

I wouldn't necessarily put it that way. I myself am a developer and there are two things here - you can dictate your conditions to users when it is absolutely necessary or the tool is a very specific enterprise solution and, just like any tool, you can either learn and use it correctly, or better not use it at all. This case is neither, and it's striking as it's not just users depending on the software (let's not forget that other alternatives are available), but the software also depends on the user-base. Perhaps not on every specific user directly, as in a paid subscription, but more on a general note to back up investment requests, ads or other.

And another thing, it's almost never the developers that make these sort of decisions. It is the stakeholders, designers or product owners that decide this and they are the decision-makers, not the developers themselves. Perhaps the issue is that developers do come here to read, but all they can do is read bug reports, whereas these design changes are simply beyond their ken or any position to influence.

@andrew84 thanks for finding it.

@chewy said in Where is the "Recently closed tabs/Tab menu" button on the top right?:

@azrael78 I'd love to do this, but I can't seem to find an official installation of Opera 69. Is there such a place to download?

There's a link somewhere in this thread I think for that. I just can't seem to find it.

@sgunhouse said in Where is the "Recently closed tabs/Tab menu" button on the top right?:

Changes are in the blog, including this one. If you want it back, post in the Feature request thread - posting here accomplishes nothing.

I did start a thread in the feature request to bring back the feature we're discussing here, and just like here, it accomplished nothing.

@lynnpin said in Where is the "Recently closed tabs/Tab menu" button on the top right?:

Well, my browser just updated to version 70 today. The recently closed tabs button is gone. I'm already missing it. Please reinstate it. We can't all be wrong!

That would be true if we all made or somehow participated in the decision, and since what's happening is nothing of the sort, the only truth is what the opera management team says it is.

@leocg What a lousy example of "staying civilised". My opinion is that calling someone a "Spoiled child" is by no means civilised. I know you said that moderators can take sides, and, frankly, we can all see that very clearly, thank you very much, but that doesn't mean anyone has the moral high-ground to call out someone else because they think their "problem" isn't "exactly the end of the world".

@123ms long story short - they won't bring it back. You can read a bit through this thread for some other possible options.

@medusanyc you can revert to an old version, try and use opera without the recently closed feature, but getting updates, or switch to another browser (the heavily mentioned here Vivaldi, or perhaps others).
Using versions higher that 70 of opera one can't bring it back no matter what.

@zaapa1 Vivaldi was made on chromium, but it was made to look and work as close to Presto ( the old opera engine) as possible, and adding additional settings and things along the way.

@superduper while I switched to Vivaldi, I cannot say that I am completely happy with it and it's understandable that people want the functionality back, and not switching to other browser. I, for one, would love to see the feature return instead of switching, because the design is different, some other functions are different etc.