The future of browsing: Opera One, the first AI-powered browser is ready for download
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JoannaCzajka Opera last edited by
@frederikathias Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Sorry to hear that your tabs have gone. Can you share more details? Windows or Mac or Linux?
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Frederikathias last edited by
@joannaczajka Hello,
It's on a windows 10 machine.
Since yesterday I had the occasion to try the same on another windows 10 computer (did a backup of the files in case). But there I don't seem to have an issue, tabs are there after closing / reopening opera 100 (haven't tried to restart the computer yet).
On the machine with the tabs gone it seemed like the "sessions" (Following the profil path) folder was completely gone.
Now it's working but I imagine it would be difficult to retrieve my lost tabs ? -
mryanmarkryan2 last edited by@frederikathias I think i encountered this. I thought at the time I closed my session with multiple tabs in different workspaces when I still had another session (instance of opera) that was still open but didn't have those tabs opened. When I closed the last session, it remembers that setup.
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
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mryanmarkryan2 last edited by
@mryanmarkryan2 yeah so confirmed. To reproduce, open opera. Setup some tabs in various workspaces. Then open a new instance of opera. You should be able to alt-tab between them. Open a tab in instance 2. Now close instance 1, then close instance 2. Re-open opera. You will see only instance 2.
I think the workspaces are kind of limited in concept. I would have focused on Speed dial getting new functionality as far as saving tabs for the workspace. For example, the first row of speed dial (or a side row) would match the workspace. Close the session and the tabs for the workspace are saved there. Right-click and restore to restore them if they are not there. Speed dials are permanent, but tabs are not. I see plenty of flaws in my quick idea here, but that's the general idea. Basically, workspaces need to work correctly with other opera features.
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
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AlizaNaomi last edited by
im not a fan of the UI, i miss having no large gap in sidebar is there anyway to just shift up the chat integrations (whatsapp, messenger twitter like the old version? (on mac)
also why cant we change order of these icons? the sidebar also feels more bulky and i dont like the border around the browser tab with round edges, it looks clumsy is there way we can disable this feature? -
ravasik last edited by
Good work, i like this design more, however I have problems with My Flow in this version - it always ends up with an error when trying to connect to a phone
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Generosus last edited by
Goodness gracious. Please accept this as constructive feedback. Opera One is a mess. Who made the decision to make such radical changes to Opera? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Respectfully, you guys have "bud-lighted" Opera. After 12+ years of using Opera, we've decided to part ways with it and, instead, use Brave. It's fast, simple, secure, and adaptable. What a shame. Best wishes, Team Opera.
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A Former User last edited by
@generosus It's the way like everything in the world that changes, you have to get used to it. I had used Opera even before you and I admit, that I'm really glad that it doesn't look like 2002 anymore.
I was glad with the former design, but the longer I use to new one, I am getting used to it. Just same but different, as in any other kind of process and progress. But I get the point.I'd rather shook my head that you were going to Brave. Really? To me it's nothing like a Chrome clone with hardcore adblocking. But designwise there isn't much to like there. Ok, it's easy because there are no features but the purple color-theme is a schock to the eye.
Would Vivaldi not be the more natural alternative for you?But that's only my personal two pence about it. Just see it as a constructive feedback.
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Art3misPC last edited by
I'm sorry but I really don't like this new design style for Opera. I'm not a fan of the rounded corners in Windows 11, and here they are again but even stronger - for me rounded corners make things look childish; and it's making the tabs, address bar and side bar a lot larger than they need to be, wasting screen space.
For tabs, I much prefer them to look like 'tabs', instead they now look like chunky buttons.
I think I'm going to have to look at other browsers. Such a shame. I really liked the previous version.
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Generosus last edited by
@himmelsheriff: Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated. Opera One is chrome-based as well. With all the "bells and whistles" added to Opera's baseline configuration, please expect a high number of vulnerabilities (CVEs) standing by to expose both your personal and professional information. So far, 251 vulnerabilities have been reported for Opera; only 3 for Brave. We'll take security over functionality anytime. And while security is important, so is speed. Brave outperforms Opera One by about 20%. In the end, no matter what, it's all about choice. We choose Brave at this time. Cheers
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A Former User last edited by
@generosus Thanks for your kind reply. You just helped me to get to the reasons for switching to Brave. These seem to be valid points, btw.
Yes, I agree, the new UI takes some time to getting used to it. And refinement is needed still, I agree as well.
But using Opera has never been about clean and simple only. But clean and simple and handy features. Clean and simple has been the philosophy around the time, they gave up Presto for Chromium. This was the time when all the die-hard fans of Old Opera so to speak went away, mostly to Vivaldi.
Nowadays "New Opera" has some unique features again. What I wonder about still is that you switched to Brave because of the easy UI, because Opera's UI may have gotten new polish for good or worse, but in general it's the same it's been before.
Also the fact that Opera had unclosed vulnerabilities is not new to Opera 100 (or One, as they call it). You've lived with that for 12+ yrs - why then the switch now?
I've been to Brave forums to have a look there. There a lot of complaints about Brave becoming laggy and hogging RAM lately. Also people complain that most effort is put into Bitcoin-integration not in browser features. I'm not quite sure that Brave really lives up to its own marketing.
Anyway have a good time with Brave! I'm sticking with Opera and testing the new UI and the new features (e.g. AI and tab management) for now! -
Generosus last edited by
@himmelsheriff: Again, thanks for your reply and insight. We switched for the reasons provided in our previous comments, but here's one more (a little suprise); Opera is now led by Zhou Yahui (China) while Brave is led by Brendan Eich (USA). We'll take "Made in USA" over "Made in China" anytime. So, now you know why Opera One was quick to integrate Tik Tok into it's code. Spyware? You decide.
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A Former User last edited by
@generosus Ok, I see. But Brave is funded by Peter Thiel. It's deeply involved in crypto (ok, Opera is as well, but not that much). Brave has been found guilty of adding referral links to the browser. Brendan Eich himself was among the homophobe and anti-vaccine crowd.
Opera browser AFAIK is made mainly in Poland (EU), central is headquartered in Norway, still subject to GDPR, and Norwegian law and publicly traded at NASDAQ.
Opera was bought by a Chinese consortium long ago - so no reason to switch now, I suppose. Chinese investors are holding the majority of stakes but the firm is still not Chinese.
There have been rumors of being sending data to China. I call that what it probably is: rumors! There's been no real evidence for any such claim in the past.
TikTiok has been added as an option to the sidebar long before Opera One. But to be sure: The sidebar is nothing else but a kind of bookmark. Don't use it, don't log in - don't send data to TikTok. If you don't like.
Still I don't see the reason, switching NOW. As all your points have been valid for quite a long time and are in no way specific to Opera One.
If I were to switch from Opera for the reasons you mentioned, I'd rather switch to Vivaldi (which is roughly what Opera was 12 yrs ago) or to Firefox, which comes with great privacy but without crypto scum. But that's me. I'm still using Opera joyfully these days, but will switch eventually when a better option may be avaiable.
So good luck with Brave! You decide! Thanks. You're very welcome. -
Generosus last edited by
@himmelsheriff: Apologies. Yes, you are correct. Tik Tok and other potential spyware channels were added to Opera (not Opera One) in 2022. Code can still intercept your browsing history, etc. whether you're logged in or not. Anyway, we spent more time in this forum that originally planned, but enjoyed the exchange. Best wishes.
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erebfraen last edited by
Why let such a crude product into the licks? The browser still has a huge number of bugs. The problem with the intrusive dialog box about configuring extensions has not yet been fixed
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BladeII last edited by@generosus Following your reasoning, you should pay attention to one thing: the function of the Chief Information Security Officer at Brave (so praised by you), is performed by Yan Zhu, born in Beijing, China! Besides, you're making yourself look like an employee of a marketing agency doing intrusive buzz marketing for Brave, and you haven't provided ANY evidence that we're dealing with spyware.
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A Former User last edited by
@bladeii Thank you for your words. The turn to Brave came a bit like a surprise after using Opera for 12 years. Someone may like or dislike the new design or the the new features, but all reasoning against Opera had nothing to do with Opera One, but have been valid for quite a long time. That's for me the major inconsistency actually.
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Generosus last edited by
@himmelsheriff: For us, Opera One is "the straw that broke the camel's back." Again, we all have choices. We choose Brave at this time. Cheers
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BladeII last edited by
@generosus Of course I don't think you work for anyone, but your argument sounds like one. If brave suits you - great. I also use this browser sometimes, but I don't think that writing on their forums and channels how bad they are is a proper way to communicate that. As for the new Opera browser, I think it was released in a stable version too early. There are a couple of bugs to fix.
I think it's worth keeping rational perception. A Chinese on the board or even as a shareholder does not make a Norwegian or American company immediately Chinese. The same way Microsoft and Google could be seen as "Indian" since their indian CEOs took over. But it ain't.
You are succumbing to the paranoia fueled by the right wing media. FOX News lost a recently a lawsuit against a company called Dominion. The TV station claimed it had ties to "Chinese Communists."
Opera, having its headquarters in Norway and offices, among others in Poland (key countries on NATO's eastern flank) is certainly under surveillance by the US and other services. If data leaks or data transfer to China took place - such information along with evidence would certainly have been published, for example in the form of some journalistic investigation.
We are dealing here with a rumor that is popular in the current geopolitical situation.
