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    • leocg
      leocg Moderator Volunteer @ghirahim last edited by

      @ghirahim I don't think we can say if the decision was good or not good at the moment, it's something that only (long) time will tell.
      Search in tabs still shows your opened tabs, so for those who want to see a list of tabs, it does the same. And for those who want to reopen recently close tabs, that isn't something that people do very often, there are other ways to do it.

      For me, the button, nay of them, could be removed.

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        leocg Moderator Volunteer @ghirahim last edited by

        @ghirahim 10 is already a way to much in my opinion. Last closed tabs should show five or six at most.

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          A Former User @boti99 last edited by

          @boti99: I like it especially if i accidentally opened the same link twice.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

            @leocg: You can make smarter decisions though, this decision is quite devoid of any thinking what so ever.

            There are many ways to search through tabs as well. Many more ways then reopening a closed tab or viewing what tabs you closed. Your argument doesn't hold.

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              A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

              @leocg actually you can keep adding switches. Notice the empty spaces on the sidebar? Even make it optional! My what a word. But Opera hates optional things and would much rather choose what you want for you.

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                A Former User @leocg last edited by

                @leocg this shows me that they are only able to add or get rid of feature never fully flesh them out. Such a disappointment.

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                  A Former User last edited by

                  Bring the chromium gesture controls

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    I don't want the premade exception to return after every update especially when I have deleted them all before the update.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                      @artexjay And what would be those ways?

                      And why someone woild need to have a list of all close tabs or several of them? The last ones, as the name says, for a case of accidental closing, would be enough.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                        @artexjay I'm not talking about UI, I'm talking about code. More switches means more code that means more bugs, more cost to keep the code, bigger installer and so on.

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                          A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                          @leocg here's one that is used by pretty much every single chrome power-user.
                          "ctrl + tab " or "ctrl + shift + tab " plus if im not mistaken theres another way to do it as well which is a bit more like going through it.

                          Here's a reason why someone, might want them. Maybe they do not want to pin the tab but instead would like to close it in order to save memory and then check back on it at a later time that day or if for example you accidentally closed the tab, its nice to quickly click the button to check and filter. Plus if I'm not mistaken the old way also had a list of all opened tabs. So in a sense this feature change is a step backwards.

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                            A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                            @leocg then maybe Opera should wise-up a bit and stop injecting the browser with "features" or bloat for the most part that doesn't make much sense. Unless they give more power/options (less restrictions[have a whole list 😉 ]) to their users. But we both know that's not going to happen.

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                              leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                              @artexjay Ctrl Tab show you the tabs but you can't search as far as I know. It mays be useful when you have few tabs opened.

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                                A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                                @leocg it shows you the entire list of tabs that are open, plus their names and thumbnail. Not hard to look through. And here's another suggestion if Opera is so hellbent on putting in a tab searcher then why doesn't it replace the defunct search box with it? It's a smarter way of adding it at the very least than what is currently in place. Especially if it's made optional too.
                                Or even adding the search feature the preexisting ctrl+tab feature. Now that would be actually incredibly smart.

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                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                  @artexjay If someone want to see a page already visted a while ago, that someone can use history or even the address bar.

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                                    A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                                    @leocg Sure they can go through the hassle of going there and being met with the entire list of history or if they forgot what was the name of it randomly enter words in the addressbar.
                                    Or they could click a button and pretty much see exactly what they wanted to see which is a small list of closed tabs where you can easily find any tabs that you closed and forgot the names of. You pick which one is better.

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                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                      @artexjay In both caes they would need to remember something about the page.

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                                        A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                                        @leocg I think you'd have a high chance of remembering or finding out a forgotten website if you have smaller list to look at.
                                        What I've noticed is Opera forces a lot of things onto it's users for no good reason. Forcing users to adopt the half-baked sidebar for the feature that they took away from the usual location.
                                        Restricting users from picking their own search engines and forcing popular geo-located search engines instead. (Note: Popular doesn't mean good.)
                                        Among other things like poor choices of features.
                                        Forcing exception lists in the adblock.

                                        I could go on but the likelihood of Opera changing any of it is tiny or even address it. Especially since most of these have been asked by many users over the years.

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                                        • leocg
                                          leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                          @artexjay Well, if we are talking about a small list of recently closed tabs, then the one in Menu > History would be enough.

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                                            A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                                            @leocg more button clicks is not a good thing. Still not a good argument for the change that Opera has done.

                                            I also like that you ignored quite a few of the things i mentioned. Smarter positioning for example, or not restricting users so much.

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