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    Which features is Windows 10 Defender Firewall blocking that Opera wants to do?

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    • careware
      careware @leocg last edited by

      @leocg Thanks Leocg, makes sense I suppose.... I sit in the don't like it camp. IMO it's a bad choice by opera. I've never had to roll back from an update, but this...is a pain.... most users don't even know what a firewall is let alone why this would be happening... I guess it is what it is... one has to deal with it...

      This coupled with the sidebar reappearing problem, sigh...computers suck...

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer @careware last edited by

        @careware Maybe you never had to rollback to a previous build, but Opera may have had to do it.

        Those who don't know what a firewall is would find the dialog strange on any browser.

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        • careware
          careware @leocg last edited by

          That's true, I haven't used any other browser for 10 years. but reputedly it doesn't happen with other browsers?

          I dunno, just seems something you'd want to avoid foisting on users if you were intent on gaining market share. I don't run the joint so... it is what it is 🙂

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer @careware last edited by

            @careware Yes, the dialog will show up in other browsers if you use them long enough and visit any site that triggers it but it will only happen once.

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            • opedara
              opedara last edited by

              I'm not seeing the answer to the most important question here...

              What is Opera trying to do through the port that Windows Firewall is blocking? This is a question that Opera people should be able to answer more than Microsoft people, because Microsoft didn't write Opera.

              The firewall appears to be doing its job; blocking a port by default then prompting me to OK or Cancel Opera from using that port that it normally blocks.

              In order for me to know if I should allow Opera through that port on Private Networks, I want to know what Opera is trying to do over that port when I get the prompt. I'm not seeing an answer to that yet.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer @opedara last edited by

                @opedara I would guess something related to service workers or some API.

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                • opedara
                  opedara @leocg last edited by

                  @leocg How do we identify it? If it's useful and not a real security risk, I'd be OK enabling it.

                  If there's any concern at all, like I've read with hacks and vulnerabilities opened up through unnecessary or improper port use (ahem, Dell Support Assist), then I'd like to leave it permanently blocked.

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @opedara last edited by

                    @opedara I don't know, maybe you would need to run some traffic analyzer.

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                    • starlight
                      starlight @leocg last edited by

                      @leocg
                      This is still happening and it's annoying..please tell us, is Opera or Defender?..it only happens when Opera updates and not windows..seems a bit sinister on Operas part..So explain, is Opera safe or not!

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @starlight last edited by

                        @starlight It's because the path to opera.exe changes on every update.

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                        • starlight
                          starlight @leocg last edited by

                          @leocg
                          Now why didn't you say that at the start of the thread when asked..And why would opera change the path every time, what is the need for this senseless charade every time?.

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @starlight last edited by

                            @starlight Because nobody asked. My answer is to your comment about it only happen after an Opera update.
                            What triggers that dialog at first place, I don't know.

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer @starlight last edited by

                              @starlight Opera was designed to work this way.

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                              • starlight
                                starlight @leocg last edited by

                                @leocg
                                Terrible decision then on operas part, and is it necessary to have to do a captcha every time I sign in?.

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                                • amunoto
                                  amunoto @opedara last edited by

                                  @opedara Hello leocg. Thank you for giving the explanation, why the defender warning pops up again and again! It's great to have people assist us users here.

                                  Maybe you could even help clarify the mystery entirely for us; Which Opera- feature is demanding the connection that windows defender ist blocking at all / in general / in the first place?
                                  I would like to disable this feature, I think.
                                  It is not the basic internet browsing, as this keeps on working after declining.

                                  You wrote: "What triggers that dialog at first place, I don't know."
                                  Who does know this? Can you point him at this discussion here, perhaps?

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User @amunoto last edited by leocg

                                    @amunoto Another annoyance of the opera updates identiying slightly different is that if you set cookie preferences, after each 'update' you have to reaffirm your choices for each site.

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                                    • amunoto
                                      amunoto @amunoto last edited by

                                      @amunoto said in Which features is Windows 10 Defender Firewall blocking that Opera wants to do?:

                                      @opedara Hello leocg. ...

                                      @leocg
                                      I think I have @mentioned the wrong user in my previous post 🙂 Sorry!
                                      Leocg - any hints for us (see post)?
                                      Kind regards, Hauke

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @amunoto last edited by

                                        @amunoto No idea, sorry. Lots of things can trigger the firewall alert on incoming connection.
                                        Maybe something related to storage, service workers, something like that?

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                                        • amunoto
                                          amunoto @leocg last edited by

                                          @leocg Thx, Leo, for your answer.
                                          I would have thought that Opera tries to do something that triggers the firewall, and that is not the simple IP http thing I want it to do.
                                          But I understand from you, that there is stuff that Opera is not doing, but that is coming from "the outside" and that triggers the windows firewall, leading to the message that has been shown in this thread's firts post.
                                          It is weird and not satisfying to me, but well.
                                          Thx again for your help.

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @amunoto last edited by

                                            @amunoto Unless you have changed something, the Windows Firewall will only alert you about incoming connections. So all those alerts are of sites trying to stablish a connection to your computer.
                                            Usually it's not a problem, since it's how the web works. You will see it if you use other browsers too.

                                            You can try removing the rules from the firewall and the check which site triggers it for the first time.

                                            One other thing that may trigger the alert are notifications.

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