Which features is Windows 10 Defender Firewall blocking that Opera wants to do?

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

@dugglebb That dialog should appear after an Opera update because for the firewall it's another program/executable running.

[A Former User]

A Former User @leocg last edited by

@leocg yet it doesnt happen with other browsers
so I dunno
is it just defender trying to freak users of other browsers out ?

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

@ceedee Because in other browsers the executable doesn't change after an update.

[careware]

careware @leocg last edited by

@leocg That makes sense...but...why does opera do it that way? Seems like a poor choice in terms of keeping customers happy...I am sure there is some technical reason for it....but if other browsers can do it, why not opera...

Same with forced windows 10 updates/reboots...sure there's a reason for it...but whats worse...a virus or pain in the ass risk of lost work first Tuesday of every month..... for mine...I choose a virus

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @careware last edited by

@careware The way Opera works allows to keep the previous build and revert to it in case of an update issue.

Some people don't like it because they need to allow Opera on firewall after every update.

[careware]

careware @leocg last edited by

@leocg Thanks Leocg, makes sense I suppose.... I sit in the don't like it camp. IMO it's a bad choice by opera. I've never had to roll back from an update, but this...is a pain.... most users don't even know what a firewall is let alone why this would be happening... I guess it is what it is... one has to deal with it...

This coupled with the sidebar reappearing problem, sigh...computers suck...

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @careware last edited by

@careware Maybe you never had to rollback to a previous build, but Opera may have had to do it.

Those who don't know what a firewall is would find the dialog strange on any browser.

[careware]

careware @leocg last edited by

That's true, I haven't used any other browser for 10 years. but reputedly it doesn't happen with other browsers?

I dunno, just seems something you'd want to avoid foisting on users if you were intent on gaining market share. I don't run the joint so... it is what it is

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @careware last edited by

@careware Yes, the dialog will show up in other browsers if you use them long enough and visit any site that triggers it but it will only happen once.

[opedara]

opedara last edited by

I'm not seeing the answer to the most important question here...

What is Opera trying to do through the port that Windows Firewall is blocking? This is a question that Opera people should be able to answer more than Microsoft people, because Microsoft didn't write Opera.

The firewall appears to be doing its job; blocking a port by default then prompting me to OK or Cancel Opera from using that port that it normally blocks.

In order for me to know if I should allow Opera through that port on Private Networks, I want to know what Opera is trying to do over that port when I get the prompt. I'm not seeing an answer to that yet.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @opedara last edited by

@opedara I would guess something related to service workers or some API.

[opedara]

opedara @leocg last edited by

@leocg How do we identify it? If it's useful and not a real security risk, I'd be OK enabling it.

If there's any concern at all, like I've read with hacks and vulnerabilities opened up through unnecessary or improper port use (ahem, Dell Support Assist), then I'd like to leave it permanently blocked.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @opedara last edited by

@opedara I don't know, maybe you would need to run some traffic analyzer.

[starlight]

starlight @leocg last edited by

@leocg
This is still happening and it's annoying..please tell us, is Opera or Defender?..it only happens when Opera updates and not windows..seems a bit sinister on Operas part..So explain, is Opera safe or not!

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @starlight last edited by

@starlight It's because the path to opera.exe changes on every update.

[starlight]

starlight @leocg last edited by

@leocg
Now why didn't you say that at the start of the thread when asked..And why would opera change the path every time, what is the need for this senseless charade every time?.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @starlight last edited by

@starlight Because nobody asked. My answer is to your comment about it only happen after an Opera update.
What triggers that dialog at first place, I don't know.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @starlight last edited by

@starlight Opera was designed to work this way.

[starlight]

starlight @leocg last edited by

@leocg
Terrible decision then on operas part, and is it necessary to have to do a captcha every time I sign in?.

[amunoto]

amunoto @opedara last edited by

@opedara Hello leocg. Thank you for giving the explanation, why the defender warning pops up again and again! It's great to have people assist us users here.

Maybe you could even help clarify the mystery entirely for us; Which Opera- feature is demanding the connection that windows defender ist blocking at all / in general / in the first place?
I would like to disable this feature, I think.
It is not the basic internet browsing, as this keeps on working after declining.

You wrote: "What triggers that dialog at first place, I don't know."
Who does know this? Can you point him at this discussion here, perhaps?