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A Former User last edited by
Anybody has an idea?
Using a mail service, couldn't get where the techs, so...
Had got a couple of "mailer-demons" about not delivering messages that I hadn't ever definitely sent at all.
Only two happened, in a row. Nothing today, but...
Should I start panicking?
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Regarding the previous message I missed - delete the messages of course, but other than that nothing you can do.
Most mail servers here recognize such fake addresses and no longer bounce them (they just ignore them), so I can't know how common they really are these days.
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A Former User last edited by
Off topic
The other day, when I entered this site with my Firefox, there was a wide bar here offering to download a new, up-to-date Opera.
Well, I gave it a try. Didn't install. Always checking everything with my AV, employed my 360 - it wanted to analyse it.
Well, by the way, the file version appeared to be like "36-something" (which is o'k, I suppose, - I'm with XP still).
So, today I executed a full scan - it pickedYandex.exefor analysis, but fortunately, returned me thisOperathing as "safe".Well, should I give it a try here on my XP?
And this thing - is it normal that nowhere on the download page I could find which version it was, nor it was in the filename?
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
The download page links to a redirector - plus you typically end up with the network installer. Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.
On the one hand, 36 is the last version that will still run on XP. On the other hand, it needs more memory than my older XP machine has. Mine is pretty much a glorified netbook, total RAM is only 1 GB - and some of that used by the onboard video. It will run, but excruciatingly slow.
If your machine has < 2GB, don't even bother. Opera 12 is the only recent browser that will work on it at any reasonable speed.
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A Former User last edited by
Steve, in "System Info">"General" I only find some "ОЗУ" is like 0.99. GB.
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A Former User last edited by
Steve, you forgot the full stop.
Yes, I know. I would've edited, but I couldn't - due to today's Big Trouble here (Friday 13th probably is to blame :devil: ). -
A Former User last edited by
Who knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped. -
blackbird71 last edited byWho knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped.The guy who might know was @Pesala. As I recall, he had some strong opinions about which 11.6x version was best and why, back in the day. Personally, I stopped updating Olde Opera at 11.52 until the 12.x series emerged, because of some of the turmoil regarding the 11.6x version progression - unfortunately at this distance (4-5 years later) though, it's hard to recall what all the fuss was about. I think some of it had to do with speed/stability complaints, but I could easily be wrong. I haven't seen @Pesala here in quite some time, though I've seen him active over in Vivaldi's forums.
You might get some kind of clues by looking at the changelogs for the various Olde Opera versions here:
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A Former User last edited by
The best thing might be to ask actual users who remember stuff.
I vaguely but do remember (an impression of) turmoil. Myself even participated in the discussions...
Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had... -
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blackbird71 last edited by
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Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...As best I can recall, a lot of the 11.6x turmoil revolved around crashing issues, intermittent site loading problems, authentication bugs, nsl (never-stops-loading) problems, mail problems, HTML5 issues, failure to exit completely upon shutdown, and resource inefficiencies. Each iteration of version resolved earlier problems, but introduced a few new ones. By 11.64, things were pretty solid as I recall, but I was reluctant to move from 11.52 because of concern over the whole instability trail - I want my default browser to be rock-stable. By the time the 12.x series emerged, security issues (cross-site scripting, etc) had accumulated to the point that it was simply foolish not to move forward. By the way, I believe 11.63 was only ever released for the Mac - I found a note to that effect in my Olde Opera archives, so the 11-series progression for Windows was 11.60, 11.61, 11.62, and 11.64.
My recollection about 12, among other things, is that it abandoned 'skins' in favor of 'themes' at some point, and that really ruffled a lot of feathers where users were customizing Opera for different visual effects. Also, I think Opera's incorporation of a separate plug-in process caused some resource issues that troubled some users. It's all kind of hazy now, having been replaced by a lot of other more recent software issues. There are times (like this) when I wish I'd somehow kept a kind of diary or record of what I was focused on in those days.
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A Former User last edited by
When you grow a (black)beard and become a revered lecturer on Opera the Magnificent. :cheers:
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A Former User last edited by
Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.
Which is..?
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.
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A Former User last edited by
The FTP site is ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/ for current versions.
I could only see 15 and higher there.
