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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      YouTube has started to work better recently: at least in my [true] Opera the page didn't reload when I got to post a comment.
      No idea if it could have anything with my recent system clean-up though*:)* 360 is :yes:.

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      • magaretz
        magaretz last edited by

        Guys, my internet is getting faster when I'm eating a dough nut.
        No bullshit.
        I know, it's supernatural.

        it's funny, lol

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          @leocg

          Leo, I surmise that guy needs vitamins.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            @sgunhouse

            Happy Birthday, Steve! :spock:

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              Anybody has an idea?

              Using a mail service, couldn't get where the techs, so...
              Had got a couple of "mailer-demons" about not delivering messages that I hadn't ever definitely sent at all.
              Only two happened, in a row. Nothing today, but...
              Should I start panicking? 🙂

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              • sgunhouse
                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                Some spammers send messages with fake From addresses, you may be getting their bounces. Around here that's old hat and I haven't seen it in over 10 years ...

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Thanks.
                  Should I do nothing?

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    Feeling sick lately. Caught a cold, or a bug, or something.

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                    • sgunhouse
                      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Regarding the previous message I missed - delete the messages of course, but other than that nothing you can do.

                      Most mail servers here recognize such fake addresses and no longer bounce them (they just ignore them), so I can't know how common they really are these days.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Off topic 😃

                        The other day, when I entered this site with my Firefox, there was a wide bar here offering to download a new, up-to-date Opera.
                        Well, I gave it a try. Didn't install. Always checking everything with my AV, employed my 360 - it wanted to analyse it.
                        Well, by the way, the file version appeared to be like "36-something" (which is o'k, I suppose, - I'm with XP still).
                        So, today I executed a full scan - it picked Yandex.exe for analysis, but fortunately, returned me this Opera thing as "safe".

                        Well, should I give it a try here on my XP?
                        And this thing - is it normal that nowhere on the download page I could find which version it was, nor it was in the filename?
                        😕

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                        • sgunhouse
                          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          The download page links to a redirector - plus you typically end up with the network installer. Sometimes you need to go to the FTP site to see versions there.

                          On the one hand, 36 is the last version that will still run on XP. On the other hand, it needs more memory than my older XP machine has. Mine is pretty much a glorified netbook, total RAM is only 1 GB - and some of that used by the onboard video. It will run, but excruciatingly slow.

                          If your machine has < 2GB, don't even bother. Opera 12 is the only recent browser that will work on it at any reasonable speed.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Steve, in "System Info">"General" I only find some "ОЗУ" is like 0.99. GB.
                            I should suppose this OZU is RAM, shouldn't I?

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                            • sgunhouse
                              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              I don't speak Russian. Probably, though. RAM is "random access memory"

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Steve, you forgot the full stop.
                                Yes, I know. I would've edited, but I couldn't - due to today's Big Trouble here (Friday 13th probably is to blame :devil: ).

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  Who knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
                                  I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped. 😕

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                                  • blackbird71
                                    blackbird71 last edited by

                                    Who knows what was (is) the difference(s) between Opera 11.61, 11.62 and 11.63?
                                    I'm thinking of updating of sorts:) Was 11.62 buggy or something? Just I've got that impression yonder days people didn't talk about it much - kinda skipped.

                                    The guy who might know was @Pesala. As I recall, he had some strong opinions about which 11.6x version was best and why, back in the day. Personally, I stopped updating Olde Opera at 11.52 until the 12.x series emerged, because of some of the turmoil regarding the 11.6x version progression - unfortunately at this distance (4-5 years later) though, it's hard to recall what all the fuss was about. I think some of it had to do with speed/stability complaints, but I could easily be wrong. I haven't seen @Pesala here in quite some time, though I've seen him active over in Vivaldi's forums.

                                    You might get some kind of clues by looking at the changelogs for the various Olde Opera versions here: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      The best thing might be to ask actual users who remember stuff.

                                      I vaguely but do remember (an impression of) turmoil. Myself even participated in the discussions...

                                      Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
                                      Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

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                                      • sgunhouse
                                        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        Opera 12 removed a couple of the features in 11, but I'd need to remind myself what they were. Certainly that web server functionality, though I believe it still supported widgets. Just been too long.

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                                        • blackbird71
                                          blackbird71 last edited by

                                          ...
                                          Why 12 then, Black? What's so different in 12 then generally?
                                          Vaguely but less so I do remember even comparatively recent complaints about 12 not having something that 11 had...

                                          As best I can recall, a lot of the 11.6x turmoil revolved around crashing issues, intermittent site loading problems, authentication bugs, nsl (never-stops-loading) problems, mail problems, HTML5 issues, failure to exit completely upon shutdown, and resource inefficiencies. Each iteration of version resolved earlier problems, but introduced a few new ones. By 11.64, things were pretty solid as I recall, but I was reluctant to move from 11.52 because of concern over the whole instability trail - I want my default browser to be rock-stable. By the time the 12.x series emerged, security issues (cross-site scripting, etc) had accumulated to the point that it was simply foolish not to move forward. By the way, I believe 11.63 was only ever released for the Mac - I found a note to that effect in my Olde Opera archives, so the 11-series progression for Windows was 11.60, 11.61, 11.62, and 11.64.

                                          My recollection about 12, among other things, is that it abandoned 'skins' in favor of 'themes' at some point, and that really ruffled a lot of feathers where users were customizing Opera for different visual effects. Also, I think Opera's incorporation of a separate plug-in process caused some resource issues that troubled some users. It's all kind of hazy now, having been replaced by a lot of other more recent software issues. There are times (like this) when I wish I'd somehow kept a kind of diary or record of what I was focused on in those days.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            When you grow a (black)beard and become a revered lecturer on Opera the Magnificent. :cheers:

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