Presto upgrade to Opera 25
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freewords last edited by
"I don't understand why you are adding new features and not reimplementing the old ones. Doesn't anybody at Opera read the forums or do you not care that you are loosing users? "
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zerchiii last edited by
hi does anyone else have a problem with opera 25 and facebook, everytime i click on pewrson to chat it pust dialog box from let to right place od screen and not just like ordinary small talk box
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netwolf last edited by
"Opera Mail is now focused on one thing only - handling email better and faster than ever."
How comes, Opear Mail is just a small subset of Opera 12.17, and hasn't been touched for more than a year.
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opajanusz18 last edited by
Hlello,please help!Problem:Opera 25 blocks addons.opera.com.It is message: "Your connection is not private".
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nimd4 last edited by
It’s now been over a year since Opera [..]
What are you talking about, I just installed Opera_Developer_26.0.1655.0_Setup.exe & saw that it's finished.. The path they went down, on - ever since 12.x basically means that Opera's over, done 4. I guess I thought how they're, maybe, tryin' out some new features, or SOMETHING, but this thing that's running on my screen.. Is funny, lol.
JavaScripts settings are gone, like they're trying to do-away, with, in Firefox (a/k/a 'SettingSanity' Add-on, for Mozilla); teh proxy settings are now shared w/MSIE, in Windblow$; opera://config - WHATever, there isn't -even- a settings page, w/parameters (like the about:config, in Firefox; like Opera USED to have), that's easily accessible (searching 4 it, now, but, who knows, maybe it doesn't even exist)
.. Meh, dunno if I'm even BOTHERED to find out what's going on.
#OperaHUGEfailLMA0
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Deleted User last edited by
.. Meh, dunno if I'm even BOTHERED to find out what's going on.
OperaHUGEfailLMA0And therein lies your problem. You never BOTHERED to educate yourself in regards to what Opera was doing (like so many others who have whined and complained). Don't blame Opera for your own state of ignorance regarding their browser. They gave countless announcements regarding the changeover in addition to continuing to discuss the new browser on Facebook and in their blogs. Inform yourself by searching instead of just saying: "dunno if I'm even (sic) BOTHERED to find out what's going on."
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nimd4 last edited by
Inform yourself by searching instead of just saying: "dunno if I'm even (sic) BOTHERED to find out what's going on."
Actually, it's right there - in the first sentence of this thread (which, also, I had quoted in my reply :)), Chromium (& I was STILL blind to read it, lolz!).
AnyWHO, problem solved! ;-P
P.S.
Seriously, though, did NOT realize how Opera had switched-over to teh Chromium engine.. & last night, needed a quick .mht web page save; but, instead, went on an epic journey - to nowhere - only to find out how one of the BEST browsers, that there ever was, was disintegrated and turned into **** -
Deleted User last edited by
Yeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.
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A Former User last edited by
...at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide.
Jealous?
Did you ever know the difference between art and mass production? :sherlock: -
Deleted User last edited by
Yeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.
It is 3.2% now
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blackbird71 last edited byYeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.
It is 3.2% now
Depending on which stat one pays attention to. There's a range of stats, and Blink fans and critics can choose whichever seems to support their view at any given moment. As it stands right now, though there are no significant changes in Opera's overall share in many of them. Clicky, for example, shows Opera's share right where it was a year ago, with growth in Blink versions almost equal to the decline in Presto version usage for a net of almost no aggregate change.
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samkook last edited by
opera://config - WHATever, there isn't -even- a settings page, w/parameters (like the about:config, in Firefox; like Opera USED to have), that's easily accessible (searching 4 it, now, but, who knows, maybe it doesn't even exist)
opera:config has been replaced by opera://flags
No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.
That's a very subjective statement and for those who hate chrome, completely false because people have different priorities(for me the new opera is useless and a menace with the forced auto-updating, but I won't go into details, I'm trying to put my complaining about it days behind me).
Now for some good news for the old 2%, since I was really missing the old MDI interface, I did some research and there's apparently a couple of people who also miss opera 12- that started Otter Browser which is meant to bring back many of the features from the old opera.
It's still very early in the development, but it seem to be going well and the MDI features have been implemented about 2 weeks ago. -
Deleted User last edited by
Yeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.
It is 3.2% now
Exactly. And as it continues to attract new users (and sweep out some of the old whiners and complainers... or as they like to call themselves: the "power users") it's usage share will increase even more. Congratulations, Opera.
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Deleted User last edited by
opera://config - WHATever, there isn't -even- a settings page, w/parameters (like the about:config, in
Now for some good news for the old 2%, since I was really missing the old MDI interface, I did some research and there's apparently a couple of people who also miss opera 12- that started Otter Browser which is meant to bring back many of the features from the old opera.
It's still very early in the development, but it seem to be going well and the MDI features have been implemented about 2 weeks ago.This isn't new news. It's been around for several months now and was first bandied about in the Vivaldi forum (which incidentally is going nowhere fast as it loses members and gains spammers). A couple of disenchanted coders are going to create a new browser that will somehow be able to do what the entire stable of Presto developers could not do? LOL Dream on. There are very few viable alternatives to Opera 25: Chrome, Firefox, Maxthon and of course IE11 (Safari if you're on a Mac but Safari is hardly a viable alternative). Of the lot, only Firefox and Chrome can really compete. The few who pine for the old Opera could be likened to the exceedingly small group of SeaMonkey users who crave for the Netscape suite and eschew the FF/TB combination. Their numbers are under 1% and if truth be told, that is exactly where the Presto numbers are as more Opera users get on board with Opera Blink.
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samkook last edited by
I know it's been around for a while(the first alpha release was january 1st of this year), but I personally just learned about it and thought others might not have heard of it.
It's perfectly possible for a couple of coders to create a very functional browser. They're not creating the web engine, they're using something already built like opera is doing so they only have to work on the interface which simplify things quite a bit.
They're also using an already existing and recent UI bulding tool which cut developing time and is something the opera dev didn't have back when they started.The reason the old opera got ditched is because after so many years of updating it, the code became a mess and they weren't able to use a new engine with the old UI so they had to start from scratch.
As for viable alternative to the old opera, for now(for me), it's limited to firefox only so there's not much choice there. Chrome and opera 25 are too limited(not being able to save ssl certificates is a deal breaker for me) and IE haven't been very good in years(Although I don't know about the newer releases, I'm forced to stick with v8 for work).
As for Maxthon, I never tried it, but one thing I don't want is my browser having anything to do with the cloud(I use different settings/bookmarks on my different PCs). I'd use Lunascape instead(and do on my phone when I'm not using opera) if I want a multi-engine browser. -
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IE11 is a very, very capable browser not at all like former versions. Two guys trying to make a browser that will somehow be compatible with any of the modern browsers and yet possess the features of the older Presto browser is laughable. I can't imagine anyone really thinking such a thing will amount to much. The reason the old browser was ditched has everything to do with a messy code base BECAUSE they put everything including the kitchen sink into the code base. And now these two guys are going to try and duplicate that with all the old features Presto contained? Right.
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samkook last edited by
If code becomes messy BECAUSE you add too many features, then you're very poor at coding. It's the constant modifying of the code to keep it up to date with the times that makes it messy. If you plan things well, you can add as many features as you want in an orderly fashion. It's the things that you don't/can't plan for that will get you(the opera devs couldn't possibly know what all those years of internet evolution would bring).
A browser doesn't have to be compatible with other browsers, it has to be compatible with websites and that's the job of the web engine which they're not developing so it already is(you can already use it to view pretty much any website). It's the bells and whistles around the viewing of webpages that they need to implement(UI customization, tab stacking/grouping, mouse gesture, password manager, spell checker, extensions, etc.).
Also, they're not planning on implementing ALL the features the old opera had since some might not make sense in their case or can't be done if you're not a big company(like uploading settings to a cloud since servers to hold that data cost a lot of money) and they don't want to clone the old opera UI.
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samkook last edited by
opera:config has been replaced by opera://flags
Nope, they are different things with different purposes.
Maybe not the same thing, but if you want advanced options to tweak the browser, it's the place to go.
