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    • wesleyaip
      wesleyaip last edited by

      This update is simply ridiculous, moron, disoriented and left me extremely upset. The speed dial page I can use in the old version, and the page of markers? Why can't I see them as thumbnails as it used to? Is there any way to go back as it was?

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      • samkook
        samkook last edited by

        What's the point of this? We could already "update" to opera 12+ while keeping opera 12-.
        All reading this did for me was that I quickly went and disabled the update notification I kept on in case of a security update like for v12.17

        If people wanted to "upgrade", they would have done so already.

        I stopped trying the newer version a while ago because of the auto-update function which I find unacceptable and was causing me trouble when I wanted to try a new version and then revert to an older one because of problems that made the newer one unusable for me.
        I know many workarounds to disable it, but they all have drawbacks when you don't want to disable it forever and I slipped up one day and the previous post 12 version I wanted to go back to became unusable so I deleted everything.

        BTW, presto still works surprisingly well on some websites, my parents still use it for facebook since some games work better on it then firefox, IE or chrome(there's no way in hell I'm going to install them a software that force auto-updates so they don't have the newest opera, I don't want to make troubleshooting their problems harder than it already is).

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          A little cleanup on this thread. Let's see if things go a little better from now on.

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          • samkook
            samkook last edited by

            What do you mean by decrease tabbing performance? I use tab utilities to get tabs close to what presto had and I haven't noticed any performance problems.

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            • deld1ablo
              deld1ablo last edited by

              Every extension that gives me tab lists when tabbing, has several frames of input delay. They also adds frames to tabbing(to go to that tab), so if I just hit alt+tab to go back to last tab, it will take several frames. Its a very notable delay.
              There is also other issues, such as lack of smooth scrolling(inb4 you mention the checkbox for "add delay and interpolate").
              Most of the ad block softwares increases page loading time, at the least those i tried.
              I don't think you understand how significant the UI performance increase in Opera was, between version 7 and 9. And its making it very hard to migrate to other browsers.

              Now, the IRC extension works fine, as do a bunch of others as well.

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              • samkook
                samkook last edited by

                I asked only because I was curious since I didn't notice anything wrong. Switching tabs for me with ctrl+tab(I assume that's what you meant since windows use alt+tab to switch between software) only seem to have a 1 frame delay before the content actually appear and I assume I'm only noticing it because I spent time watching for this kind of thing while editing videos since it's so fast I can barely notice it.

                I have a really fast computer though so that might play a part in it.

                But yes, the lack of smooth scrolling is definitively annoying and it took me months to migrate to it from opera 12, but there's really no other viable choice sadly.

                On the plus side, tab utilities allowed me to be able to refresh the active tab just by clicking it and it changed my world. A week after I enabled this, I was already constantly doing it in other browsers out of habit so discovering this helped soften the blow of moving.

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                • freewords
                  freewords last edited by

                  "I don't understand why you are adding new features and not reimplementing the old ones. Doesn't anybody at Opera read the forums or do you not care that you are loosing users? "
                  I completely agree !

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                  • zerchiii
                    zerchiii last edited by

                    hi does anyone else have a problem with opera 25 and facebook, everytime i click on pewrson to chat it pust dialog box from let to right place od screen and not just like ordinary small talk box

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                    • netwolf
                      netwolf last edited by

                      "Opera Mail is now focused on one thing only - handling email better and faster than ever."

                      How comes, Opear Mail is just a small subset of Opera 12.17, and hasn't been touched for more than a year.
                      Or do you want to say that you are currently in the process of updating it?

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                      • opajanusz18
                        opajanusz18 last edited by

                        Hlello,please help!Problem:Opera 25 blocks addons.opera.com.It is message: "Your connection is not private".

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                        • nimd4
                          nimd4 last edited by

                          It’s now been over a year since Opera [..]

                          What are you talking about, I just installed Opera_Developer_26.0.1655.0_Setup.exe & saw that it's finished.. The path they went down, on - ever since 12.x basically means that Opera's over, done 4. I guess I thought how they're, maybe, tryin' out some new features, or SOMETHING, but this thing that's running on my screen.. Is funny, lol.

                          JavaScripts settings are gone, like they're trying to do-away, with, in Firefox (a/k/a 'SettingSanity' Add-on, for Mozilla); teh proxy settings are now shared w/MSIE, in Windblow$; opera://config - WHATever, there isn't -even- a settings page, w/parameters (like the about:config, in Firefox; like Opera USED to have), that's easily accessible (searching 4 it, now, but, who knows, maybe it doesn't even exist)

                          .. Meh, dunno if I'm even BOTHERED to find out what's going on.

                          #OperaHUGEfailLMA0

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            .. Meh, dunno if I'm even BOTHERED to find out what's going on.
                            OperaHUGEfailLMA0

                            And therein lies your problem. You never BOTHERED to educate yourself in regards to what Opera was doing (like so many others who have whined and complained). Don't blame Opera for your own state of ignorance regarding their browser. They gave countless announcements regarding the changeover in addition to continuing to discuss the new browser on Facebook and in their blogs. Inform yourself by searching instead of just saying: "dunno if I'm even (sic) BOTHERED to find out what's going on." 💤

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                            • bharath2232
                              bharath2232 last edited by

                              thankq very much ---solved -- http;//www.beautytipsguide.com

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                              • nimd4
                                nimd4 last edited by

                                Inform yourself by searching instead of just saying: "dunno if I'm even (sic) BOTHERED to find out what's going on."

                                Actually, it's right there - in the first sentence of this thread (which, also, I had quoted in my reply :)), Chromium (& I was STILL blind to read it, lolz!).

                                AnyWHO, problem solved! ;-P

                                P.S.
                                Seriously, though, did NOT realize how Opera had switched-over to teh Chromium engine.. & last night, needed a quick .mht web page save; but, instead, went on an epic journey - to nowhere - only to find out how one of the BEST browsers, that there ever was, was disintegrated and turned into ****

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                                • Deleted User
                                  Deleted User last edited by

                                  Yeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    ...at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide.

                                    Jealous?
                                    Did you ever know the difference between art and mass production? :sherlock:

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                                    • Deleted User
                                      Deleted User last edited by

                                      Yeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.

                                      It is 3.2% now 🙂

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                                      • blackbird71
                                        blackbird71 last edited by

                                        Yeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.

                                        It is 3.2% now

                                        Depending on which stat one pays attention to. There's a range of stats, and Blink fans and critics can choose whichever seems to support their view at any given moment. As it stands right now, though there are no significant changes in Opera's overall share in many of them. Clicky, for example, shows Opera's share right where it was a year ago, with growth in Blink versions almost equal to the decline in Presto version usage for a net of almost no aggregate change.

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                                        • samkook
                                          samkook last edited by

                                          opera://config - WHATever, there isn't -even- a settings page, w/parameters (like the about:config, in Firefox; like Opera USED to have), that's easily accessible (searching 4 it, now, but, who knows, maybe it doesn't even exist)

                                          opera:config has been replaced by opera://flags

                                          No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.

                                          That's a very subjective statement and for those who hate chrome, completely false because people have different priorities(for me the new opera is useless and a menace with the forced auto-updating, but I won't go into details, I'm trying to put my complaining about it days behind me).

                                          Now for some good news for the old 2%, since I was really missing the old MDI interface, I did some research and there's apparently a couple of people who also miss opera 12- that started Otter Browser which is meant to bring back many of the features from the old opera.
                                          It's still very early in the development, but it seem to be going well and the MDI features have been implemented about 2 weeks ago.

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                                          • Deleted User
                                            Deleted User last edited by

                                            Yeah... one of the best. I think at its height it attracted a crowd of about 2% of users worldwide. No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.

                                            It is 3.2% now

                                            Exactly. And as it continues to attract new users (and sweep out some of the old whiners and complainers... or as they like to call themselves: the "power users") it's usage share will increase even more. Congratulations, Opera.

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