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    • kened
      kened Banned @burnout426 last edited by

      @burnout426: I think we deserve a full explanation about what is happening. This is not normal.

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      • burnout426
        burnout426 Volunteer @kened last edited by burnout426

        @kened What I know right now is that Windows Defender doesn't think it's malware or a virus. It just tags it as a potentially unwanted program. It's detected as BrowserModifier:Win32/Foxiebro. I can understand that as the Opera installer actions can and do modify Opera. So, it is indeed a "BrowserModifier", technically. The weird thing is it just started happening recently. I'm not sure if it's due to a definition update for Windows Defender where they have stricter rules or just a change (it'd be a safe change) in Opera's installer actions that triggers Defender now. And, remember. No other anti-virus does this.

        If you're sure you don't have any real BrowserModifier:Win32/Foxiebro infections on your computer, you can allow the threat in Windows Defender until this gets sorted.

        Reading the "Unwanted Software" section at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/intelligence/criteria leads me to believe that Defender wants something in Opera's installer to be user-initiated in some way. Opera might just have to change something with one of its installer functions (when checking/doing updates etc.) to work around the detection and make Defender happy. But, we'll have to wait and see what Opera says.

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer @kened last edited by

          @kened What is happening is that this time the antivirus giving, possibly, the false positive is one more widely used.

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          • kened
            kened Banned @burnout426 last edited by

            @burnout426: I hope so.

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            • kened
              kened Banned @leocg last edited by

              @leocg: I think it's a little more complicated than that.
              I repeat: I was unable to uninstall Opera Developer. I had to remove all folders related to it. But I really hope it was just a false positive.

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              • kened
                kened Banned @leocg last edited by

                @leocg: Probably, in the next few hours we will have a new build. We'll know better what's happening.

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                • gmiazga
                  gmiazga Opera last edited by

                  Microsoft removed this detection. Their full reply:

                  We have removed the detection. Please follow the steps below to clear cached detection and obtain the latest malware definitions.

                  1. Open command prompt as administrator and change directory to c:\Program Files\Windows Defender
                  2. Run “MpCmdRun.exe -removedefinitions -dynamicsignatures”
                  3. Run "MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate"

                  Alternatively, the latest definition is available for download here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/definitions

                  From our side there have been small changes in installer code on developer which probably got detected as malware together with Microsoft definitions update done on 2-3 October.

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                  • kened
                    kened Banned @gmiazga last edited by

                    @gmiazga: It's good to know that.

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                    • kened
                      kened Banned @gmiazga last edited by

                      @gmiazga: The procedure worked here. I'll wait for the next build to see what happens.

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                      • burnout426
                        burnout426 Volunteer @gmiazga last edited by

                        @gmiazga I made sure to remove the threat from "allowed threats" so that I can test if there's still a problem or not. All good so far after doing the commands. Opera Developer isn't trigger Windows Defender anymore.

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                        • burnout426
                          burnout426 Volunteer @burnout426 last edited by burnout426

                          @burnout426 However, if I right-click the Opera installer dll that I had saved and choose to scan it with Defender, it still detects the dll as being infected.

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                          • tr3x
                            tr3x @gmiazga last edited by

                            @gmiazga cool, thanks for resolving this

                            just for information, you have to run the commands like

                            .\MpCmdRun.exe -removedefinitions -dynamicsignatures
                            .\MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate

                            with '.' in the beginning because in another case you'll see 'The command MpCmdRun.exe was not found, but does exist in the current location' error

                            I executed the command, will monitor the further behavior

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                            • burnout426
                              burnout426 Volunteer @tr3x last edited by

                              @tr3x In Powershell I assume?

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                              • ziegensatan
                                ziegensatan @tr3x last edited by

                                @tr3x try open cmd with adminsitrator rights (right click -> run as admin)
                                cd c:\Program Files\Windows Defender
                                MpCmdRun.exe -removedefinitions -dynamicsignatures
                                MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate

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                                • tr3x
                                  tr3x @burnout426 last edited by

                                  @burnout426 yes, did that in Powershell, that's why dot slash was required

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                                  • tr3x
                                    tr3x @ziegensatan last edited by

                                    @ziegensatan thanks, but I already ran the commands in powershell with dotslash in the beginning and there worked good

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                                    • l33t4opera
                                      l33t4opera last edited by

                                      New update - 73.0.3834.0 ;-)

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                                      • craigsn
                                        craigsn @gmiazga last edited by

                                        @gmiazga said in Opera 73.0.3827.0 developer update:

                                        MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate

                                        Thanks you for this update

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                                        • ghirahim
                                          ghirahim @ziegensatan last edited by

                                          @ziegensatan: Thank you.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Good i stayed at Version 69 ..... everything still works.
                                            Even my V7 Bookmarks extension...

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