New Opera Forums launched
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amatczak Opera last edited by
@ocirnes I think you could make good arguments for both options:
Yes, I see how it might be annoying to see by default posts in languages you don't read... but at the same time I believe many people really want to see unread posts from ALL the forums, even if just to glance over them. It would be equally frustrating for them to have to manually follow all the forums one by one.
Additionally, if the default were "Ignoring" then the forums might appear dead by default... not a good option either. By the way, NodeBB doesn't even give us config option to set what the default should be - they opt for "Watching" and I think it's lesser of two evils.
Part of the "problem" is that we're a big community with a lot of sub-forums. I bet on most installations of NodeBB this default probably never bothered anyone.
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amatczak Opera last edited by
By the way I see that you can Ignore whole subtree of categories, so if you don't want to be bothered by posts in different languages (I guess most people indeed don't care about them) then just go to Local forums and set it to "Ignored" - it will propagate to all children categories.
Hope this helps!
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amatczak Opera last edited by
@burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@amatczak Tested. The From header has "Forums Opera" in it now. It should be "Opera Forums" (for U.S. English at least).
Corrected.
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ocirnes last edited by@amatczak We actually don't need to discuss it, if you don't have a config option to change it.
However, I want to tell you my opinion: Why should a user want to get informed about a topic dealing with Opera iPhone, if he uses an Android phone? Why should a user get informed about Russian topics if he even can't read Cyrillic? I could go on with this list.
I've never seen a forum where everything is subscribed automatically... Why? Because it makes no sense (see above). A forum software CANNOT know what a user is interested in.
"many people really want to see unread posts from ALL the forums"
I don't think so. Who said this? Did you conduct a survey? If it's the case they can subscribe everything.As I said, I did what you suggested - I unsubscribed everything. But this is not very user friendly and most people won't know what to do to stop those notifications.
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emniss last edited byHow can I edit my own postings? I found some misspellings that I wanna correct.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@amatczak Tested. The From header has "Forums Opera" in it now. It should be "Opera Forums" (for U.S. English at least).
Corrected.
Looks better now. Thanks. One tiny addition if you could. In the subject, it says "Opera forums". Could you make that "Opera Forums" (capitalize "forums"). It looks better for one, but also, that's how it was with the old forums. Just to be consistent etc.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@emniss said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
How can I edit my own postings?
Click the 3 dots at the bottom right of your post and choose "Edit". You have a limited time to do so. After that you're out of luck or you have to ask a mod to do it.
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emniss last edited by emniss
@burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@emniss said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
How can I edit my own postings?
Click the 3 dots at the bottom right of your post and choose "Edit". You have a limited time to do so. After that you're out of luck or you have to ask a mod to do it.
The three dots just say: Bookmark, Share this post: Facebook, Twitter, Google+. No edit option?! The old forum had a 30 minutes deadline to edit ones postings.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@ocirnes said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
As I said, I did what you suggested - I unsubscribed everything. But this is not very user friendly and most people won't know what to do to stop those notifications.
Just my humble opinion.FWIW, I think it's weird too. But, I was already used to it from using https://forum.vivaldi.net/. When I first started using the forums there, I immediately had to ignore all the categories I wasn't interested in so "Unread" wasn't polluted.
But, I don't even use unread/inbox there or here. I rely on email notifications only, which avoids the mess.
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amatczak Opera last edited by
@burnout426 Good catch about the inconsistency. But it should be "Opera forums" everywhere, not "Opera Forums". Just like our logo says. The old forums were massively inconsistent about this...
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
Still, maybe adding a separate "Legacy products" category with "Opera Presto" and "Opera Mail" subcategories would not be a bad idea. We'll discuss and think about it.
That'd be great!
This forum has tags too, so having Opera Mail and Opera Presto tags and encouraging use of them would help. Would also be cool if each tag view page had an rss feed. But, I don't know if the forums support that.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@burnout426 Good catch about the inconsistency. But it should be "Opera forums" everywhere, not "Opera Forums". Just like our logo says. The old forums were massively inconsistent about this...
Point taken. Sounds good to me.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@emniss said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@emniss said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
How can I edit my own postings?
Click the 3 dots at the bottom right of your post and choose "Edit". You have a limited time to do so. After that you're out of luck or you have to ask a mod to do it.
The three dots just say: Bookmark, Share this post: Facebook, Twitter, Google+. No edit option?! The old forum had a 30 minutes deadline to edit ones postings.
Maybe it has to do with your reputation or number of posts you've made. Don't know.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@amatczak It's up to you then if you want to make the From header in notification emails say "Opera forums" instead of "Opera Forums".
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
@burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
If the forum gives an option to insert custom meta/link tags, it'd be great to specify an opera forums logo/thumbnail for use with speed dial in browsers.
We'll look into that
I guess there's a site that analyzes site what's needed for logs for different platforms. It can also generate all the markup needed for all platforms.
https://realfavicongenerator.net/favicon_checker?protocol=https&site=forums.opera.com
A few other resources on the subject:
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by burnout426
@amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:
Also, links in notification emails just take you to the post and not the specific comment.
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/13478/forum-email-notifications-link-doesn-t-point-to-reply
It used to work though, so I'm thinking that might not be on NodeBB's end. Hopefully.A quick scan of a notification email I got from our beta version of Opera Forums indeed confirm that the link points just to the discussion (reads "Click here to read the full topic") not the comment. Shame.
...but. When I click the link the Forums offers me a "click here to jump to last read post" popup. So it's kinda okay.
I set up a local copy of nodebb. I see there's a post_notif email template. Once I get the hang of things in general, I'll see if I can figure out what all the supported template variables are and try to come up with something.
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amatczak Opera last edited by
@burnout426 Let us know if you find anything! We're aware of this template and indeed it might be possible to tweak it so that it links straight to the post (would be my preferred behaviour too) but we're simply swamped with more important tasks around forums now. If you happen to figure out the changes needed this might speed things up indeed
