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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      So it seems the takeover failed:

      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-opera-software-m-a-china-idUSKCN0ZY0CA

      The so-called Kunqi consortium, which includes online and mobile games distributor Beijing Kunlun Tech Co and search and >security business Qihoo 360 Technology Co, will now buy certain parts of Opera's consumer business.

      It will acquire Opera's mobile phone and desktop computer browser business, its performance and privacy apps division, its technology licensing business, as well as its stake in Chinese joint venture nHorizon.

      I am pretty much ignorant about how this works. I don't know if this is a better or a worse notice, because the Chinese will now try to buy some parts of Opera, and IMHO, the most important ones. Does this mean that the Desktop and Mobile dev team will be separated from Opera too? Does this mean Opera will stay as it is, and the dev team will now only do what the Chinese demands?

      Anyway... I am glad the takeover failed, and I hope the new one will fail too. Opera has become the best browser for Desktop, and even if I will be happily use it even if Opera is owned by the Chinese, I don't want to experience the day when the Chinese decide that Opera for Desktop and/or Phones isn't profitable enough to keep pumping time and money on it.

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      • sgunhouse
        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        Pretty much everything we have a forum for except Opera TV, according to the story I read earlier. Not the advertising business, but we don't have a forum for that.

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          Does this mean that the Desktop and Mobile dev team will be separated from Opera too?

          Not necessarily. Most probably Opera will be split so that the areas included in the new offer will be part of a company and the others will be part of another.

          Does this mean Opera will stay as it is, and the dev team will now only do what the Chinese demands?

          Most probably it means that instead of those guys investing their money in Opera and getting dividends for that, there will be some Chinese companies.

          I am glad the takeover failed, and I hope the new one will fail too

          It may mean less money for Opera and, in consequence, it may affect Opera's development.

          I don't want to experience the day when the Chinese decide that Opera for Desktop and/or Phones isn't profitable enough to keep pumping time and money on it.

          Well, the current owners can do it too.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            Pretty much everything we have a forum for except Opera TV, according to the story I read earlier. Not the advertising business, but we don't have a forum for that.

            Sounds like you start turning Chinese 😎

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            • Deleted User
              Deleted User last edited by

              I'm hoping the new owners don't turn into UC and Maxathon and try to data mine you. Otherwise straight to Firefox I go.

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              • opermo
                opermo last edited by

                Otherwise straight to Firefox I go.

                Or Slimjet.

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                • browzer1
                  browzer1 last edited by

                  From Breakingviews.com, ... Norway’s Opera Software is selling parts of its business to a Chinese consortium for $600 million after a full takeover did not get regulatory approval in time. Yet investors are still in the dark about why the deal did not proceed. The proposed partial sale is little consolation.

                  To be honest, for me personally, if Opera has ANY association with China, then I will drop it like a hot potato.

                  What was Opera thinking?

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    What was Opera thinking?

                    This is how business works.

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                    • blackbird71
                      blackbird71 last edited by

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                      To be honest, for me personally, if Opera has ANY association with China, then I will drop it like a hot potato.
                      What was Opera thinking?

                      It's not what Opera was thinking, it's what the majority of stockholders (the real owners) were thinking. Whenever one sells something, their focus is on receiving maximum financial return for the thing being sold. Everything else, in the real world, is secondary. Who buys it and for what purpose are at best secondary considerations. The seller's focus is on his selling value, and what becomes of the sold 'thing' becomes the buyer's problem. Sometimes moral or compassionate factors enter in and elevate secondary factors to primary significance, but that's frankly a rare occurrence. If you can cobble together more money than the Chinese consortium has offered, Opera's board (acting in its stockholders' interests) would most likely sell either the whole operation or the latest pieces to you.

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                      • jackob11
                        jackob11 last edited by

                        Opera Sold. I think it's good. In both PC & Smartphone's market Opera's share is too low. In PC Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox are the giant & in smartphone UC Browser overcame & beat Opera although it's born after so many days of Opera. And UC is a Chinese browser which is the 2nd most popular browser after chrome. I think Opera needs to change game plan that's why they sold the whole browser sector to Chinese. By the way, I don't trust on Chinese law. Some of their law's are silly & bullshit.

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                        • custdemotest
                          custdemotest last edited by

                          Good to know: searching on bgp.he.net for AS6461 (SkyFire, see http://www.skyfire.com/moving?from=/ ) I found Zayo Bandwidth Inc instead. Very serendipitous...

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            Opera will keep Skyfire and Surfeasy: http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=407334

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                            • custdemotest
                              custdemotest last edited by

                              Yeah, my bad.

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                The transaction has been approved and it's near closing.

                                http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=412332

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                                • blackbird71
                                  blackbird71 last edited by

                                  Thanks for the info link, @leocg.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    The transaction has been approved and it's near closing.
                                    http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=412332

                                    Which means what?
                                    Are they selling everything but or just some? "Consumer business"?

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                                    • blackbird71
                                      blackbird71 last edited by

                                      The answer probably rests within this quote from July 2016 ( http://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/opera-web-browser-firm-sold-for-just-600m-20160718) :

                                      The Norwegian company will sell businesses including browsers for mobile devices
                                      and desktops, technology licensing and a stake in a Chinese venture to the same
                                      group that attempted the full takeover... The partial sale means the buyer group
                                      gets the assets that Opera is best known for - browsers that help mobile-phone,
                                      tablet and computer users surf the web faster by using less data.

                                      The 'partial sale' is the one referenced in @leocg 's link several posts above ( http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=407334) and is the current sale version:

                                      On 15 August 2016, Opera and the Consortium signed an amendment to the Agreement
                                      whereby it has been agreed that Opera will retain the Skyfire and SurfEasy
                                      businesses in exchange for a reduction of the previously agreed enterprise value...:

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        And the sale is completed: http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=412755

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          Opera will retain the Skyfire and SurfEasy
                                          businesses

                                          What are those two?

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                            What are those two?

                                            SurfEasy is the company behind Opera's VPN.

                                            Skyfire is responsible for the technology behind video compression in Opera Mini, Opera for Android, etc.

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