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    • opermo
      opermo last edited by

      unsupported OS like XP is foolishness plain and simple.

      Vista is still supported (even if only has less than a year left).
      If MS hasn't dropped it yet, no one else should.

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        unsupported OS like XP is foolishness plain and simple.

        Vista is still supported (even if only has less than a year left).
        If MS hasn't dropped it yet, no one else should.

        Yes everyone should support ~10 year old system with 1.4% market share. /y

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        • canadagoose4ever
          canadagoose4ever last edited by

          unsupported OS like XP is foolishness plain and simple.

          Vista is still supported (even if only has less than a year left).
          If MS hasn't dropped it yet, no one else should.

          Companies can do whatever they please. You're not paying for the browser but using it as a free offering from Opera. Either update your OS or find another browser. But you're going to discover that your dated OS will be an increasing disadvantage to you going forward.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            So it seems the takeover failed:

            http://www.reuters.com/article/us-opera-software-m-a-china-idUSKCN0ZY0CA

            The so-called Kunqi consortium, which includes online and mobile games distributor Beijing Kunlun Tech Co and search and >security business Qihoo 360 Technology Co, will now buy certain parts of Opera's consumer business.

            It will acquire Opera's mobile phone and desktop computer browser business, its performance and privacy apps division, its technology licensing business, as well as its stake in Chinese joint venture nHorizon.

            I am pretty much ignorant about how this works. I don't know if this is a better or a worse notice, because the Chinese will now try to buy some parts of Opera, and IMHO, the most important ones. Does this mean that the Desktop and Mobile dev team will be separated from Opera too? Does this mean Opera will stay as it is, and the dev team will now only do what the Chinese demands?

            Anyway... I am glad the takeover failed, and I hope the new one will fail too. Opera has become the best browser for Desktop, and even if I will be happily use it even if Opera is owned by the Chinese, I don't want to experience the day when the Chinese decide that Opera for Desktop and/or Phones isn't profitable enough to keep pumping time and money on it.

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            • sgunhouse
              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Pretty much everything we have a forum for except Opera TV, according to the story I read earlier. Not the advertising business, but we don't have a forum for that.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                Does this mean that the Desktop and Mobile dev team will be separated from Opera too?

                Not necessarily. Most probably Opera will be split so that the areas included in the new offer will be part of a company and the others will be part of another.

                Does this mean Opera will stay as it is, and the dev team will now only do what the Chinese demands?

                Most probably it means that instead of those guys investing their money in Opera and getting dividends for that, there will be some Chinese companies.

                I am glad the takeover failed, and I hope the new one will fail too

                It may mean less money for Opera and, in consequence, it may affect Opera's development.

                I don't want to experience the day when the Chinese decide that Opera for Desktop and/or Phones isn't profitable enough to keep pumping time and money on it.

                Well, the current owners can do it too.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Pretty much everything we have a forum for except Opera TV, according to the story I read earlier. Not the advertising business, but we don't have a forum for that.

                  Sounds like you start turning Chinese 😎

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                  • Deleted User
                    Deleted User last edited by

                    I'm hoping the new owners don't turn into UC and Maxathon and try to data mine you. Otherwise straight to Firefox I go.

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                    • opermo
                      opermo last edited by

                      Otherwise straight to Firefox I go.

                      Or Slimjet.

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                      • browzer1
                        browzer1 last edited by

                        From Breakingviews.com, ... Norway’s Opera Software is selling parts of its business to a Chinese consortium for $600 million after a full takeover did not get regulatory approval in time. Yet investors are still in the dark about why the deal did not proceed. The proposed partial sale is little consolation.

                        To be honest, for me personally, if Opera has ANY association with China, then I will drop it like a hot potato.

                        What was Opera thinking?

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          What was Opera thinking?

                          This is how business works.

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                          • blackbird71
                            blackbird71 last edited by

                            ...
                            To be honest, for me personally, if Opera has ANY association with China, then I will drop it like a hot potato.
                            What was Opera thinking?

                            It's not what Opera was thinking, it's what the majority of stockholders (the real owners) were thinking. Whenever one sells something, their focus is on receiving maximum financial return for the thing being sold. Everything else, in the real world, is secondary. Who buys it and for what purpose are at best secondary considerations. The seller's focus is on his selling value, and what becomes of the sold 'thing' becomes the buyer's problem. Sometimes moral or compassionate factors enter in and elevate secondary factors to primary significance, but that's frankly a rare occurrence. If you can cobble together more money than the Chinese consortium has offered, Opera's board (acting in its stockholders' interests) would most likely sell either the whole operation or the latest pieces to you.

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                            • jackob11
                              jackob11 last edited by

                              Opera Sold. I think it's good. In both PC & Smartphone's market Opera's share is too low. In PC Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox are the giant & in smartphone UC Browser overcame & beat Opera although it's born after so many days of Opera. And UC is a Chinese browser which is the 2nd most popular browser after chrome. I think Opera needs to change game plan that's why they sold the whole browser sector to Chinese. By the way, I don't trust on Chinese law. Some of their law's are silly & bullshit.

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                              • custdemotest
                                custdemotest last edited by

                                Good to know: searching on bgp.he.net for AS6461 (SkyFire, see http://www.skyfire.com/moving?from=/ ) I found Zayo Bandwidth Inc instead. Very serendipitous...

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                  Opera will keep Skyfire and Surfeasy: http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=407334

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                                  • custdemotest
                                    custdemotest last edited by

                                    Yeah, my bad.

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                                    • leocg
                                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                      The transaction has been approved and it's near closing.

                                      http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=412332

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                                      • blackbird71
                                        blackbird71 last edited by

                                        Thanks for the info link, @leocg.

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          The transaction has been approved and it's near closing.
                                          http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=412332

                                          Which means what?
                                          Are they selling everything but or just some? "Consumer business"?

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                                          • blackbird71
                                            blackbird71 last edited by

                                            The answer probably rests within this quote from July 2016 ( http://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/opera-web-browser-firm-sold-for-just-600m-20160718) :

                                            The Norwegian company will sell businesses including browsers for mobile devices
                                            and desktops, technology licensing and a stake in a Chinese venture to the same
                                            group that attempted the full takeover... The partial sale means the buyer group
                                            gets the assets that Opera is best known for - browsers that help mobile-phone,
                                            tablet and computer users surf the web faster by using less data.

                                            The 'partial sale' is the one referenced in @leocg 's link several posts above ( http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/search.do?messageId=407334) and is the current sale version:

                                            On 15 August 2016, Opera and the Consortium signed an amendment to the Agreement
                                            whereby it has been agreed that Opera will retain the Skyfire and SurfEasy
                                            businesses in exchange for a reduction of the previously agreed enterprise value...:

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