Posts made by kHellstre

It started to use Vivaldi. It solved all these problems with Opera
It is a great browser from some original developers of Opera.

When I restart Opera (with multiple) browser windows open, Opera will start to play all the videos that are in the active tabs *.

It Should Not Do That. If I Have paused video before closing Opera, I don't want opera to start to play it for me. It doesn't matter If I had closed to browser. If I have paused a video, then keep it paused.

Also, if I select a tab with a video after restarting Opera, Opera starts to play the video in that tab. Even if I have earlier paused the video. Again. I want to keep my videos paused, if I don't hit play myself. Should be simple.

This all is hugely annoying as after restart I have to keep pausing the videos. Often I have multiple windows open, maybe a few tutorials running, so it is frustration to start hunting those that Opera decided to start to play. It can take a while, and then I also lose the place I was.

This amount of issues with Opera has been quite overwhelming. How it is possible that every basic feature is being destroyed update after update?
Sorry for my attitude, but the late development has been just a huge disaster. A bunch of useless toys are introduced while the basic functionality of the browser is collapsing. Why was this autoplay/not to play even changed? It didn't work like this earlier. Not a single good update for a year or so. Just more issues after each update, and nothing that matters gets fixed.

@leocg said in Opera 102.0.4880.70 Stable update:

It makes me laugh how in every update developers fix bugs and create new others

Welcome to the (real) world of software development.

It is evident that new bugs will be introduced. That is not the main problem. The issue is to spend resources on Chess-plugins and Ai-toys when the basic functionality is broken.

Basic tab and window management have been broken now over half a year. New tabs system were introduced, and I had hopes that at least some issues would have been fixed. No, instead we got plenty of more issues, and nothing useful new stuff. The grouped tabs just not work very well. Separated windows work much better for same purposes. If I want to group my tabs, I create a new window and move tabs there. Sadly, there are a lot of bugs and issues introduces lately that hinders that workflow.

The newest version introduced a bug where a new window is created when the only tab is moved to new window. So you get empty extra Windows when you move a tab to other window. Quite annoying. And also, we can't' resize windows from top border anymore. And dozens of old ones. Like, tabs can't be dropped to empty space of the top bar.

I can't understand how it is even possible that these kinds of things get to the released version. And there are many more basic issues with tabs that have been ignored for a long time. Then we get some chess-plugins instead of fixes to basic functionality, Really? What the f is going on with Opera?

Try any other browsers, handling of tabs is light years away, Oper. It makes me quite angry and sad.

When will you fix all the issues with tabs? Which there are plenty, and sadly more after each update.

The browser is almost unusable because of those, and you keep adding totally useless stuff like Chess-plugins and AI-toys

I'm really disappointment of the current state of Opera.

Will these issues with tabs to be addressed any time soon?

Asking because the latest updates have just bought more issues and I will be forced to change my browsers if these things are not being fixed.

Is there any estimate when these issues with tabs could be fixed?
Or is the developer's viewpoint that there aren't any issues, but just features?

Will these issues with tabs to be addressed any time soon?

Asking because the latest updates have just bought more issues and I will be forced to change my browsers if these things are not being fixed.

So, is there any ETA for these issues with tabs to be fixed?
Or is the developer's viewpoint that there aren't any issues, but just features?

Will this or any of the other issues with tabs to be addressed any time soon?

But luckily we got a Custom Chess Browser.
Who needs tabs when we can play chess?

https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/09/opera-launches-custom-chess-browser/

In every other Windows app I use, I can drag from the top of the window and resize the height of the app window. But not with Opera, (anymore).

It is quite amazing that you introduce useless stuff like Custom Chess Browser (https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/09/opera-launches-custom-chess-browser/) while brake basic functionality like this.

WTF Opera ?
You really ruined my day with this new "update".

@andrew84 I don't know if I should cry or laugh

So, we have a new update
....and instead any of these issues with tabs would be fixed, it just introduces new one(s)

This is unbelievable bad development. And I don't see there is much of hope that it gets any better anytime soon.

https://forums.opera.com/topic/66343/bug-moving-tab-out-form-window-that-has-only-one-tab-creates-an-new-window

If I have a window that has only a one tab and I move that tab to other window, the window is not removed, instead a new window with "empty" tab is created.

It should not work like that. If the last tab form window is moved some where else, then that window should be removed. Do not create a new one there. Quite basic.

I really don't understand what the actual f the Opera developers are doing. How in the hell they can break basic things like this? All the time. Is there any alpha/beta testing done? This has been quite disappointing for a while now. Operas are denigrating fast. There are still some features that keep me using it, but mostly the reason I don't migrate to some working browser is that I'm too lazy, and it is just easier to use what you have used to use.

When ever there is a new upgrade, I have a tiny little blink of hope that at least some issues with tabs would be fixed. Instead, we just get more. Frustrating.

Could you please start fixing the issues with tabs instead of adding them more issues and useless features with each new release ?

When you drag out a tab from the tab bar, the site in that tab is scrolled to the top. So if you are for example in the middle of a long search results list, want to move tab to other window, the site jumps back to the top, and you have to scroll down where you were.

This is really annoying. For example, if you are reading an article, and want to move it to another window to read it later, you lose to place where you were. Also, I quite often drag tabs out for reference, and it is quite frustrating that I have to find the place where I was every time.

It is sad how broken the basic stuff with tabs are at the moment. Nothing gets fixed, instead useless stuff is added, and new bugs introduced.

@nopileosx2 said in Suddenly I cannot drag tabs to another browser window anymore:

the behavior of tabs is quite universal in all chromium based browsers

Yep. With any other modern browser it is like 10x smoother experience when doing basic stuff with tabs. Like dragging them from Window to other, or creating new windows.

I have had several crashes when I drag out a tab from a window. Opera crashes and restart right after.

I can't reproduce this, but it happens but It happens maybe once in a day, or a bit less.

Now that I have used the new version a couple of months, I haven't used a single time the “nested tabs” feature. It is basically useless toy that just adds more clutter to UI.

So, this sadly follows the unfortunately popular current software development trend of adding new less useful toy like features to apps instead of fixing the urgent issues in basic functionality. Issues like mentioned in this thread.

It would be nice if the tab list which opens with Control Space would have a Speaker Icon for the tabs that play audio. Same way as the tabs in tab bar have .

This would greatly help to locate the tabs that play (unwanted) audio when you have multiple windows open.

So now we have brand new Opera One. What a splash screen, Wow.

And new drawing on active tab, IMO the old was better.. but maybe developers have fixed some urgent issues with Tabs.

Nope
They couldn't fix any of the issues. None.

I wish it was easier for me to migrate to some other browser, but there still still things I think are better done in Opera. But at this point, every upgrade seems to just bring more issued wihout fixing any older ones

@leocg said in Suddenly I cannot drag tabs to another browser window anymore:

@khellstre It's a workaround until the problem is fixed.

So is this issue being fixed?
It has been there over 3 months since this issue was introduced. There have been several updates. I can't believe this would be too hard to fix, if someone just takes a look at it. So is this issue worked at all?

Thanks for locking my other thread addressing multiple issues with tabs, and not giving any answers to proposed questions. I find that your answers rarely gives any useful information and I often find them quite arrogant. Facing that kind of attitude when you have issues with software just worsen your mood. I wish they could find someone who is more suitable for moderating user forum.