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    • ajs4opera
      ajs4opera @sklunk last edited by

      @sklunk my system doesn't give me the option to retain my data when uninstalling. Is it possible to restore sessions and tabs from the sessions folder? Or is there any other way? I don't want to uninstall Opera 102 only to find that all of my data is gone.

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      • ajs4opera
        ajs4opera @sklunk last edited by

        @sklunk one more thing. Can I have two instances of Opera running, that is install 101 before uninstalling 102? For those of us not at the high end of tech savvy it would be helpful to have more information. (Yes, I have my PC plugged in & turned on LOL)

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        • ajs4opera
          ajs4opera @burnout426 last edited by leocg

          @burnout426 on my PC, there is no CertificateRevocation or Opera_shutdown_ms.txt in the Opera Stable directory, which I hope are not critical files (they don't look like it). However, it looks like most of the files you list are in the Default folder. I'm not sure what this means. Also, I don't see a Cache or System Cache in any of the Opera-related folders.

          I'm wary of the deletion you suggest. As you can tell, while I'm a long-time Opera user, I'm by no means an expert, and I find the instructions in this thread confusing. Is there no simpler way to roll back the changes? Something like this should be in a recovery option. I have been able to restore tabs and tab islands before, when accidentally closing a multi-tab instance before a single-tab one, but this "upgrade" is a total shambles.

          I won't be able to work on it any more for a while, but I hope that by the time I get back in somebody will have found a simpler fix.

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          • burnout426
            burnout426 Volunteer @ajs4opera last edited by

            @ajs4opera

            However, it looks like most of the files you list are in the Default folder.

            Opera probably just copies them all even though not needed. No worries.

            Download Opera Developer and install it. Click "options" in the installer and make sure to uncheck "Make Opera default browser". When that Opera is installed and launches, close it. Then, look at its "Opera Developer" profile folder. Same with its "Opera Developer" cache folder.

            You'll then see where things should go without extra copies. You can then uninstall Opera Developer if you want.

            CertificateRevocation or Opera_shutdown_ms.txt

            Also, I don't see a Cache or System Cache

            No worries. They'll show up eventually.

            I'm wary of the deletion you suggest.

            No problem.

            Is there no simpler way to roll back the changes?

            Compared to one of he methods in this post?

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            • ajs4opera
              ajs4opera @burnout426 last edited by

              @burnout426 thanks. When I next have a chance I will try your suggestions. Maybe not for a few days, but I'll try to get there.

              I hope Opera developers are taking note of this fiasco and it won't happen again.

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              • sklunk
                sklunk @ajs4opera last edited by

                @paul-durham:
                That may be a good explanation. Like I said I am behind a firewall so I always have to use the offline installer so I never worry about auto-update anyway.

                @ajs4opera:
                Unfortunately I don't know the answer to either of your questions. Maybe somebody else can chime in ....

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                • simonov-89
                  simonov-89 @gmiazga last edited by

                  @gmiazga we are already lost everything...

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                  • cristianer
                    cristianer last edited by

                    Hi, is there a possibility to add a checkbox inside preferences so I can have the "Other bookmarks" folder in the right side of the bookmark bar? Just like Chrome or Edge have? Thanks.

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                    • gmiazga
                      gmiazga Opera @simonov-89 last edited by gmiazga

                      @simonov-89 migration to 102.0 profile copies files and nothing is deleted. So downgrade work, so does copying all files from root profile dir to Defaults folder inside profile also works.

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                      • simonov-89
                        simonov-89 @gmiazga last edited by

                        @gmiazga I did, yeah. But you do realize that many users do not sit on forums, do not understand computers well? It's a major problem.

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                        • gmiazga
                          gmiazga Opera @simonov-89 last edited by

                          @simonov-89 that's why update is fully disabled.

                          Stable builds are rolled out gradually, usually on first day only users who update manually get new version. So generally those that download build from opera.com and install it or those that visit opera:about page to trigger update.

                          Issue with migration didn't affect all users and we are still not sure what triggers such situation. We haven't been able to reproduce it internally.

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                          • paul-durham
                            paul-durham @gmiazga last edited by

                            @gmiazga: Perhaps the length of time it takes to complete the upgrade is a clue. I was tempted to manually restart Opera after it closed during the upgrade. I suspect if I manually launched Opera during the process it would have left me with nothing. I have hundred of open tabs with tab islands, etc. Perhaps test with a similar configuration and then launch Opera in the middle of the upgrade.

                            PS. I am on Windows 11 Enterprise, 16GB RAM, 250GB NVME SSD, CrowdStrike antimalware.

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                            • gmiazga
                              gmiazga Opera @paul-durham last edited by

                              @paul-durham thanks, that's what we suspect. Migration should be atomic operation so it shouldn't be possible to start Opera while it wasn't finished. We are currently trying to reproduce it with fake profile with size around 100GB. Working also on some other solution for profile migration.

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                              • ajs4opera
                                ajs4opera @gmiazga last edited by

                                @gmiazga if it's any help to you, Opera opened unexpectedly, with the blank profile, when I was trying to open another program (WordWeb Pro) which wanted to send me to its update site. Normally, this would open my existing Opera profile, but this time I got the singing O and the blank profile. I may have been caught in the middle on this one. Still need a good fix though.

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                                • Celticperson
                                  Celticperson @Opera Comments Bot last edited by

                                  @opera-comments-bot Just a pity that the v.`102 update wipes all bookmarks and previous stored speed tabs.
                                  I removed V102 via my control panel, being carefull to retain all data. Then reinstalled V101 and everything worked.

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                                  • HoneyBadger56
                                    HoneyBadger56 @burnout426 last edited by

                                    @burnout426 I'm not that computer savy, and I would need someone to either walk me through it step by step, or just do it for me. I am tempted to dump Opera and go back to Firefox.

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                                    • HoneyBadger56
                                      HoneyBadger56 @younes-csm last edited by

                                      @younes-csm How did you do it? Could you walk me through it? I'm not computer savvy, and it totally screwed me up.

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                                      • Manx56
                                        Manx56 @Opera Comments Bot last edited by

                                        @opera-comments-bot OK that's great! Proud of you! Now where are my bookmarks and my speed dial?
                                        I don't have the necessary skills to reset my bowser to the older version as outlined in posts here, so what do I do? Where's my stuff???

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                                        • Bigone201
                                          Bigone201 last edited by leocg

                                          It's a real f....ed up cluster f.... you did with this update. First the browser autoupdated yesterday and I lost everything. Then I did the system restore in windows to get all the data back. Then I read here that you stoped autoupdate until you find a solution. And today when I started my computer Opera was again autoupdated to version 102.

                                          For f.... sake stop the damn autoupdate if you f...ed up during testing of this update.

                                          Now I copied, as suggested, all the content in local and Roaming from main folder into Default subfolders and I got the browser back is it was. Now I have two sets of files taking place on my hard drive and I'm not sure if I can now safely delete all the files in the main folders since I copied everything into Default subfolders.

                                          I demand the option to have autoupdate disabled and the system just informs you that you can install update if you chose to do it. That way I can at least first check the forums here if you managed to f..... it again.

                                          Jesus ... first you bring this piece of crap Opera One out that I had no choice not to get it, then I have to listen to that annoying sound and video everything the browser updates and now you managed to break all the data with an update. Does anyone actualy does any proper testing before releasing updates???

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                                          • keikpek
                                            keikpek last edited by leocg

                                            Why did you delete all my settings, passwords, history, bookmarks opera. Why do you always need to remove your shortcut when you auto update even when i ask you to not auto update. Why do you need to change your UI desing when i've almost gotten used to the old new one.

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