Where is "file, open" in Opera?

[Anawilliam]

Anawilliam Banned last edited by

The "Open" option can be found under the "File" menu and is used to open a new webpage or file in the browser.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @Anawilliam last edited by

@anawilliam There is no File.

[hucker]

hucker @leocg last edited by

@leocg said in Where is "file, open" in Opera?:

@anawilliam There is no File.

And why not? The most important menu in any program.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hucker last edited by

@hucker Nope, it's not. As Opera, Chrome,. edge and 9 out of 10 browsers have been demonstrating in the last decade at least.

[hucker]

hucker @leocg last edited by

@leocg said in Where is "file, open" in Opera?:

@hucker Nope, it's not. As Opera, Chrome,. edge and 9 out of 10 browsers have been demonstrating in the last decade at least.

Just because they get it wrong doesn't mean you have to. Go check out a word processor, a photo editor, etc. How else do you open a file? It's the most basic operation. What if I wanted to check a local copy of a web page I was creating?

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hucker last edited by

@hucker Different softwares for different purposes. In a browser such menu is not necessary.

[hucker]

hucker @leocg last edited by hucker

@leocg said in Where is "file, open" in Opera?:

@hucker Different softwares for different purposes. In a browser such menu is not necessary.

It is necessary, as I said, for opening a local copy of a page. They always used to have it, but as is the way with modern computing, they remove the useful stuff and add pointless gimmicks. The sales department is in charge instead of the programmers. Just look at the mess Windows made of it's perfect start menu and taskbar. Windows 8 onwards and it was destroyed. By default, my Windows 11 start menu contains absolutely zero apps I ever use, and 20 adverts. I had to use a 3rd party fix to put it back to Windows 7 style.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hucker last edited by

@hucker 9 out of 10 users don't keep opening local HTML files so often that demands a menu to open files in a browser.

[hucker]

hucker @leocg last edited by

@leocg So you don't cater for 10%? That's like not serving vegetarian meals.
There are many things in menus most people don't use. Just look in a photo editor. Yet they're there. Why the dumbing down? It's not a mobile phone where you need to save space.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hucker last edited by leocg

@hucker In that specific situation, the need of a open files menu, no, I don't care.

Those who really need to open files in a browser know how to do it without needing a specific menu for that.

[hucker]

hucker @leocg last edited by

@leocg Not everyone does things the same way. Yes, I can open an html by double clicking it in the folder. But if the browser happens to be in front of me, I need the menu. There should always be more than one way to skin a cat. Again, every other type of program makes use of it. Why don't you say the same to them? Why haven't Microsoft removed it from Word?

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hucker last edited by

@hucker If that kind of menu were really necessary in a browser, it would have been returned already. The fact that those menus have been gone for a decade or more shows that the demand for them is not that high.

Also, browsers don't seem to be the kind of software designed to have files being opened on them on a regular basis, hence the lack of a open files menu.

[hucker]

hucker @leocg last edited by hucker

@leocg What is designed into things and what people want are not the same. Just look at how many people hate the new taskbar and start menu in Windows. Everyone's using 3rd party stuff like Startallback. Look at mine, notice running programs on the taskbar with text, not just a little icon nobody can recognise. Notice no shortcuts on there mixed up with the running programs. Notice the most recently used programs in the start menu easy and quick to access. How it used to be and how it should be. Look at a Windows 11 machine out of the box. The start menu and taskbar totally unusable.

[leocg]

leocg Moderator Volunteer @hucker last edited by

@hucker I have no problems with Windows taskbar.

[donq]

donq @leocg last edited by

offtopic, sorry

@leocg said in Where is "file, open" in Opera?:

@hucker I have no problems with Windows taskbar.

You are the happy one then

[hucker]

hucker @donq last edited by hucker

@donq said in Where is "file, open" in Opera?:

offtopic, sorry

@leocg said in Where is "file, open" in Opera?:

@hucker I have no problems with Windows taskbar.

You are the happy one then

The only happy one. Below is an example of a Windows 11 taskbar and start menu.

1. The icons are in the middle of the taskbar, what on earth?!
2. What are those icons on the taskbar? So now we have to learn the symbol for every app we install. What was wrong with words written in English?
3. Pinned? Seriously? My start menu automatically puts the apps I use most in a list, most used first.
4. If you've ever used it in that horrid mode without a 3rd party fix, you'll realise the recommended section is never of any use whatsoever. It puts a document in there you opened once and probably won't again. It mixes documents with apps. What a mess.
5. It's full of ads. Windows has now become 99% adware. A paid for OS is supported by ads, not acceptable.
6. Those icons at the bottom, which of them are running apps and which are links to apps? The only change is a little dot below them, not very clear, they've ruined it and made it like Mac OS. Windows 7 perfected the interface and it's been downhill ever since.

Just compare this mess with my simple easy to use one I pasted earlier: