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Login-IDs gone

  • Re: Login-IDs File/DB or what
    OS : Windows 10 Pro 64bit - Version : 2004 Build : 19041.610
    Opera x64 - 72.0.3815.186

    Days after upgrade Win10 to 2004 were a stabb in the back for Opera. Content in UserID/Password file was gone.
    What I do know all versions behave perfect of Opera with Win10 version 1909.
    My def. of Session ie exiting and restart. File means UserID/Password file. Login-ID ie User-ID and Password.
    Tests
    Cleaning Opera from PC, basic reinstall
    Start Session 0 with empty File. Fetched a few new Login-IDs to Save. The File shows the fetched Login-IDs.
    Start Session 1 File includes only the last fetched Login-ID. Fetched a few more Login-IDs to Save. Login-IDs showed up OK.
    Exiting Opera, had a break.
    New Session - The File showed casual a complete listing af former fetched Login-IDs (ab. 150 records from 1909 version). I have no explanation to it.
    New Session - The File was empty.

    It's obvious that this situation is a Microsoft problem, no blames to Opera.
    When cleaning Opera traces how do old versions of Login-file survive ??
    I will believe many users experience the same problem.
    Are there any fix to update Win10 ??
    -E

  • Or does Opera clear "Passwords and other sign-in data" by mistake ??

    psw-06.jpg
    -E

  • Have observed one severe difference between OS Win10 1909 and 2004 - in 2004 File Date Stamping is set to ON by default. So far one has to make a surgical cut to fix the option.
    To whom that use SSD for start-up, FDS should be OFF otherwise Opera/Password Manager will more or less miss references to LoginID db.
    Check out this : https://winaero.com/disable-ntfs-last-access-time-updates-in-windows-10/
    -E

  • @erik_s said in Login-IDs gone:

    File Date Stamping

    Have you tried changing/disabling it to see if it solves the problem? And, if so, what value did you set it to?

  • @burnout426
    Did find an error in the parameters.
    User Managed parameteres should be -
    0 : disable
    1 : enable
    I'm in the start testing it using Option 1.
    Can't tell more, but somehow I have access to my LoginID file, but I don't know the durability.
    it's a strange problem as Microsoft force Enable to to parameter.
    -E

  • Tests so far:
    ![alt text](fsutil.jpg image url)
    ![alt text](disable 0.jpg image url)
    ![alt text](disable 2.jpg image url)

    In documents from Microsoft the values for Disable/Enable are as shown in pic 1
    Test value 0 : User Managed is set to Disable; see pic 2
    Test value 2 : User Managed is set to Disable; see pic 3

    It may seem that MS has switched the values for Disable/Enable options.
    Access to LoginIDs via Password Manager so far is only through Value 0, but not permanent. It happens that LoginID-file just disappears during the Opera session.

    At present MS forces enabling date stamp and ignores all SSD OS-installations.
    -E

  • I have Windows 10 2004 (Build 19041.572). I ran:

    fsutil behavior query disableLastAccess
    

    and get:

    DisableLastAccess = 2  (System Managed, Disabled)
    

    and everything works fine with Opera for me.

    But, I'm not using an SSD.

  • @burnout426 As I initial said - this is a SSD problem. Using trad HDD no problems.
    -E

  • @erik_s I've got:

    fsutil behavior query disableLastAccess
    DisableLastAccess = 2 (Gerenciado pelo Sistema, Desabilitado)

    I'm have an SSD and don't have such issues with saved passwords.

  • @leocg Neither had I when running OS version 1909.
    -E

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